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applegrove

(118,718 posts)
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 08:30 PM Oct 2017

CNN EMAIL on the state of Republican support:

The Point

By Chris Cillizza at CNN

"SNIP.....

There are two Republican parties at the moment: The Trump wing and everyone else.

What's important about that fact is that these two parties are not evenly divided. Roughly two-thirds of Republicans side more closely with the Trump branch, while the remaining one-third are in the John McCain/Bob Corker/Mitch McConnell wing.

.....

63% of Republicans say they trust Trump's approach more than congressional GOP types to lead the party.

That's telling. It means that -- contra Trump -- the GOP is not incredibly unified. At the same time, it also means that the split is not even -- it favors Trump. Bigly.

....SNIP"

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We're truly fucked if 2/3 awesomerwb1 Oct 2017 #1
But that is 2/3rds of 43% of the population. So like 33% of voters. And democratic applegrove Oct 2017 #2
Maybe I misread it awesomerwb1 Oct 2017 #4
Nope. That is not how I red it. I'll put the whole thing up: applegrove Oct 2017 #5
Good. I feel better if that's the case! awesomerwb1 Oct 2017 #6
90% of the repukes were Trumpers in January. Elwood P Dowd Oct 2017 #8
Use caution with anything from Cillizza as he is possibly the worst pundit on CNN. LonePirate Oct 2017 #3
Could you please post the whole piece? hedda_foil Oct 2017 #7
The 4th reply in this thread is me posting the whole email. applegrove Oct 2017 #9
Thanks, approve. You're a peach! hedda_foil Oct 2017 #10
He's slipping badly (bigly?!) with independent voters Zambero Oct 2017 #11

applegrove

(118,718 posts)
2. But that is 2/3rds of 43% of the population. So like 33% of voters. And democratic
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 08:47 PM
Oct 2017

and independent voters are really revved up to vote against him.

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
4. Maybe I misread it
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 08:54 PM
Oct 2017

but I took it in a different context: 2/3rds of Gop politicians for trump, the rest against him?

applegrove

(118,718 posts)
5. Nope. That is not how I red it. I'll put the whole thing up:
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 08:55 PM
Oct 2017

CNN The Point


"SNIP....

There are two Republican parties at the moment: The Trump wing and everyone else.

What's important about that fact is that these two parties are not evenly divided. Roughly two-thirds of Republicans side more closely with the Trump branch, while the remaining one-third are in the John McCain/Bob Corker/Mitch McConnell wing.

One number from the new CNN poll makes that split clear. It's this:

63% of Republicans say they trust Trump's approach more than congressional GOP types to lead the party.

That's telling. It means that -- contra Trump -- the GOP is not incredibly unified. At the same time, it also means that the split is not even -- it favors Trump. Bigly.

What does that mean in practical terms? That if you are a Republican running for re-election in 2018 with the possibility of a Trump-supporting primary challenger, you could be in real trouble.

Need a real-world example of these poll numbers? Take a look at Arizona, where Sen. Jeff Flake, who wrote an entire book critical of Trump, is now a primary underdog to former state Sen. Kelli Ward, who holds a fundraiser for her candidacy tonight alongside former Trump White House political strategist Steve Bannon.

-- Chris

.....SNIP"

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
8. 90% of the repukes were Trumpers in January.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 12:30 AM
Oct 2017

At the rate Trump is fucking up, it might be down to 50% by next fall.

LonePirate

(13,426 posts)
3. Use caution with anything from Cillizza as he is possibly the worst pundit on CNN.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 08:49 PM
Oct 2017

Granted, it's not much of a stretch to say rank and file Republicans prefer their ignorant, racist, misogynistic mouthpiece over their members of Congress.

Zambero

(8,965 posts)
11. He's slipping badly (bigly?!) with independent voters
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 02:10 AM
Oct 2017

Including many who now regret voted for him. And winning nearly zilch support from Democrats. 63% of roughly one-third who identify as GOP plus a handful of indies does not constitute a sizable "base". In that context, Trump's current poll approval ratings ranging from 32 to 39 percent would seem to be in line with Cillizza's figures.

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