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Trump just claimed Rep. Wilson lied about his remarks to Sgt. Johnson's widow (Original Post) highplainsdem Oct 2017 OP
Prove it Corgigal Oct 2017 #1
That's what most of the Twitter responses to him are saying so far. highplainsdem Oct 2017 #2
Just wanted to mention Corgigal Oct 2017 #14
I wouldn't trust that. sarge43 Oct 2017 #16
To Trump if enough people believe something then it's true. nt Xipe Totec Oct 2017 #41
Did Trump wire tapp his own phone? (n/t) PJMcK Oct 2017 #3
I wouldn't be surprised if all presidential phone calls are recorded. LonePirate Oct 2017 #7
I think you're right PJMcK Oct 2017 #10
Good memory! Where are the Comey tapes he* lied about? Achilleaze Oct 2017 #21
After Nixon I would be amazed if they were dsc Oct 2017 #37
They are not keeping records like any. other White House has... Zoonart Oct 2017 #40
I believe the Congresswoman over him anyday.. HipChick Oct 2017 #4
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2017 #18
Here we go another threat of proof that he never produces. nt doc03 Oct 2017 #5
Nothing is too low for Trump extvbroadcaster Oct 2017 #6
Werwe it not for having a wealthy sperm donor The Wizard Oct 2017 #26
Of course he did because everything that comes out of Trump's mouth is a lie. octoberlib Oct 2017 #8
What a lying sack of shit! Docreed2003 Oct 2017 #9
There were witnesses to the call; it was on speakerphone. Ilsa Oct 2017 #11
You mean Kelly Preston, I think. mrs_p Oct 2017 #30
Thanks, yeah I got that wrong. Ilsa Oct 2017 #43
He records everything BeyondGeography Oct 2017 #12
Please proceed, "Mr. President" forgotmylogin Oct 2017 #34
Must be some "leak" of what Mueller is doing coming out shortly BumRushDaShow Oct 2017 #13
Sick, boorish man orangecrush Oct 2017 #15
This is bad for both sides dkhbrit Oct 2017 #17
I disagree, Red Don is vile and was most likely vile to them because the solider was black. He's vil uponit7771 Oct 2017 #20
President Trump can't stop, won't stop gratuitous Oct 2017 #24
Another concern troll ? The Wizard Oct 2017 #29
Trump is taking a hit in the polls over this---even in a Republican leaning poll like Rasmussen. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #47
Do we just shut up and take it? Don't call Trump on his shit? SunSeeker Oct 2017 #32
Agree, it needs to stop. The fish rots from the top. We need a leader in the WH, not riversedge Oct 2017 #33
Only Trump is attempting to score points. It's poor form to think otherwise. LanternWaste Oct 2017 #42
She said he didn't even know his name. Do I believe that? Yes, I do. PearliePoo2 Oct 2017 #19
He often says "to be honest" or "believe me" or other gibberish tells of a liar. BSdetect Oct 2017 #22
says the man who lies about everything spanone Oct 2017 #23
Lying is second nature to Trump. world wide wally Oct 2017 #25
He lies in the same way other people breathe. LonePirate Oct 2017 #27
Perhaps others have tapes too C_U_L8R Oct 2017 #28
BREAKING: @RepWilson says "I have proof too...This man is a sick man." @realDonaldTrump "has no sym riversedge Oct 2017 #31
And I would believe 45 over anyone. ananda Oct 2017 #35
He had better be careful, since the widow might back up the congresswoman. nt tblue37 Oct 2017 #36
Of course he did. What else? No one except his base believes his lies, any more. Saw her.... Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #38
Then show it you orange menace. all american girl Oct 2017 #39
This is the person who will vouch for Trump's version: Baitball Blogger Oct 2017 #44
Just like he had tapes of Comey? Thrill Oct 2017 #45
The soldier's mother was in the car and heard the whole thing mcar Oct 2017 #46
If he had audio he would have produced it. Lucinda Oct 2017 #48
FFS! Can't he just drop it? smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #49

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
14. Just wanted to mention
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:07 AM
Oct 2017

Years back our house got hit by a tornado, just a cat 1 or 2. I believe one death, however we were called by Vice President Gore to see if we needed anything and if we were ok. We lived in a red state and it was a nice gesture of the Vice President.

However, Trump is not Gore and doesn't understand how to relate to people.

Whoever works in the White House and got him to do these calls should be fired. They should have known better. Don't force Trump to do anything, America might depend on that.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
16. I wouldn't trust that.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:23 AM
Oct 2017

Recordings can be altered. New one can be made.

The soulless coward lies; he lies about everything. We have no reason to trust him. Hell, this whole sad fiasco started because he lied. Hell, if he said the sun will rise in the east this morning, I'd check my watch and compass.

The congresswoman might have a reason to lie. Trump has every reason.

LonePirate

(13,426 posts)
7. I wouldn't be surprised if all presidential phone calls are recorded.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 07:43 AM
Oct 2017

He also was not alone on the call most likely. Still, I think he is bluffing here and trying to cover his tracks after all of the pushback from his despicable behavior.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
10. I think you're right
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 07:51 AM
Oct 2017

Trump is bluffing just as he was when he threatened James Comey about his "tapes."

But I don't know if the White House records all of the president's phone calls. After the Watergate scandal, where the tapes were evidence that could be subpoenaed, it could be very dangerous for a president to keep this kind of evidence.

But it doesn't really matter. The words Trump is reported to have said are totally believable to me. Wouldn't you agree?

Have a good day, LonePirate.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
21. Good memory! Where are the Comey tapes he* lied about?
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:36 AM
Oct 2017

It's hard to keep track of all the cheating and lying since republicans using a kremlin disinformation techniuqe to attack American democracy with a "Firehose of Falsehoods."


* republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

Zoonart

(11,873 posts)
40. They are not keeping records like any. other White House has...
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:34 AM
Oct 2017

There is no visitors Log from Mara Lago and I would be surprised if there is one from his New Jersey Lair.
Conversations in the oval are not recorded by anyone but, it would seem...Sipcy....Hummmmmmmm.
They are breaking with every protocol in the book...."in the office where Ronald Reagan would not even remove his jacket".
SHOCKING>>>>>>>>The Republicans don't give a shit. They are all in.

extvbroadcaster

(343 posts)
6. Nothing is too low for Trump
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 07:41 AM
Oct 2017

I still find it hard to believe that people actually voted for him. It was so obvious he was just a rich kid that would have been a used car salesman without dad's money and connections. And you want this asshole running the country? They did not like Hillary. So what? She wanted the job and was qualified to do it. Instead, we got "I'm bringing back coal" guy. I really think America would not be in this mess if somebody, at some point in Trumps life, had kicked his ass. Instead, he gets away with anything. Sad.

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
26. Werwe it not for having a wealthy sperm donor
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:03 AM
Oct 2017

he'd be holding up liquor stores and convenience stores or robbing hubcaps.

Docreed2003

(16,866 posts)
9. What a lying sack of shit!
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 07:46 AM
Oct 2017

We’ll never see that “proof”. He might as well have said “believe me”. Fuck him

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
11. There were witnesses to the call; it was on speakerphone.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 07:52 AM
Oct 2017

I guess this is DOTUS' first lie of the day, and it is a whopper.

What kind of douche nozzle tweets politically about his failure to extend decent condolences?

We shouldn't expect much, after all, he was going to sexually harass Kira Sedgwick after the death of her son, until he learned she was married to John Travolta.

mrs_p

(3,014 posts)
30. You mean Kelly Preston, I think.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:12 AM
Oct 2017

Kira Sedgwick is married to Kevin Bacon.

Why I know this, not a clue.

Never heard this story, though.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
43. Thanks, yeah I got that wrong.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:40 AM
Oct 2017

Names too similar for my brain. I'm the worst at naming actors, etc.

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
34. Please proceed, "Mr. President"
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:17 AM
Oct 2017

With all "due respect," whip out "the proof" and show us this ten-inch monster you keep telling us about.

BumRushDaShow

(129,194 posts)
13. Must be some "leak" of what Mueller is doing coming out shortly
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 07:57 AM
Oct 2017

because he has now generated a new distraction to capture the news cycle.

dkhbrit

(110 posts)
17. This is bad for both sides
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:32 AM
Oct 2017

Using military deaths to score political points. This is poor form for both R's and D's and it needs to stop.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
20. I disagree, Red Don is vile and was most likely vile to them because the solider was black. He's vil
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:34 AM
Oct 2017

... I don't understand what people don't get about white supremacist like Red Don.

They're vile people

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
24. President Trump can't stop, won't stop
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:53 AM
Oct 2017

Someone has to stand up for decency, and it's clearly not going to be the Republicans (except for one or two notable exceptions who are leaving office soon). I'm not willing to give President Trump a clear field, and will oppose his egregious utterances, even if you think it's "poor form" to do so. But thank you for your concern.

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
29. Another concern troll ?
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:09 AM
Oct 2017

"Poor form" would be letting that scumbag go unchallenged. He must be exposed at every turn he takes against decency, ethics, the truth, American values and principles.

SunSeeker

(51,578 posts)
47. Trump is taking a hit in the polls over this---even in a Republican leaning poll like Rasmussen.
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 06:26 PM
Oct 2017
Poll: Trump disapproval rating jumps amid Gold Star widow controversy

According to the daily presidential tracking poll from Rasmussen Reports, Trump has a 41 percent total approval rating and 58 percent total disapproval rating. This latest disapproval figure is Trump's highest since August 31.

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/10/23/poll-trump-disapproval-rating-jumps-amid-gold-star-widow-controversy/23253134/


The Republicans would love for us to shut up about it. No fucking way should we do that, unless Myeshia Johnson tells us to, and she is certainly not doing that. She was on TV yesterday ripping Trump a new one.

SunSeeker

(51,578 posts)
32. Do we just shut up and take it? Don't call Trump on his shit?
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:14 AM
Oct 2017

How is pointing out that Trump didn't call fallen soldiers' families "politicizing" their deaths?

How is it "political" to express outrage at Trump telling the pregnant grieving widow of a fallen soldier that he "knew what he was getting into"?

Damn it. I am sick of us letting Republicans walk all over us.

riversedge

(70,258 posts)
33. Agree, it needs to stop. The fish rots from the top. We need a leader in the WH, not
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:15 AM
Oct 2017

the creature we have.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
42. Only Trump is attempting to score points. It's poor form to think otherwise.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:35 AM
Oct 2017

Only Trump is attempting to score points. It's poor form to think otherwise.

Needs to stop it, indeed...

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
19. She said he didn't even know his name. Do I believe that? Yes, I do.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:33 AM
Oct 2017

She said he told his widow something like, "They know what they're getting into when they sign up".
Do I believe this repulsive excuse for a man could possibly say anything so crass, insensitive and vulgar? Yes, I do.
Everything about him makes me



BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
22. He often says "to be honest" or "believe me" or other gibberish tells of a liar.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:38 AM
Oct 2017

He's a malignant (incurable) narcissist.

And we seem to have no recourse to deal promptly with his stream of lies.

Our media let us down in not tearing him down as they wrongly attacked every Hilary move. Sucked in by the Russians and GOP manipulators.

And we have a near useless IC.



C_U_L8R

(45,005 posts)
28. Perhaps others have tapes too
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:09 AM
Oct 2017

Sooner or later, someone is going to record something nasty from Trump. Maybe this time.

riversedge

(70,258 posts)
31. BREAKING: @RepWilson says "I have proof too...This man is a sick man." @realDonaldTrump "has no sym
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:12 AM
Oct 2017

He said, she said. This puts the grieving widow in the middle of this shitstorm. damn


Ross Palombo? @RossPalombo

BREAKING: @RepWilson says "I have proof too...This man is a sick man." @realDonaldTrump "has no sympathy." After @POTUS accuses her of lying @WPLGLocal10



Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
38. Of course he did. What else? No one except his base believes his lies, any more. Saw her....
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:24 AM
Oct 2017

on Morning Joe. She said the mother was crying in part because of the insensitivity, he spoke offhandedly and not out of compassion. The mother (or was it his aunt? I can't remember) said that Trump didn't even know the young soldier's name.

One of the few black Green Berets. Two little children, and one on the way, left behind. And Trump didn't even know his name. Shameful.

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
39. Then show it you orange menace.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:32 AM
Oct 2017

I'm going to believe the widow and the wonderful Rep...not the lying sack of crap.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
49. FFS! Can't he just drop it?
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 06:40 PM
Oct 2017

The poor woman is pregnant with two children and grieving her dead husband! She has no idea what happened to him or why. What the fuck is wrong with him? Why can't he just leave her in peace?

God, I hate him more than I can say.

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