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highplainsdem

(49,006 posts)
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 12:19 PM Oct 2017

Trump today, on call to Johnson's widow: "I had a very nice conversation with the woman - the wife.

NBC tweet with video clip of Trump saying this today.




Yesterday, according to Rep. Wilson, Trump apparently couldn't remember Sgt. Johnson's name while talking to his widow.. (He reportedly referred to Johnson as "your guy" then.)

Today, Trump clearly could not remember the widow's name, even her last name.

And judging by that video clip, he couldn't recall Rep. Wilson's name either.
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Trump today, on call to Johnson's widow: "I had a very nice conversation with the woman - the wife. (Original Post) highplainsdem Oct 2017 OP
LIAR MFM008 Oct 2017 #1
And 35% of the public, but more importantly 49 PERCENT of the voting public Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #26
They are MFM008 Oct 2017 #40
"I did not have a negative conversation with that woman, the wife." :-P WinkyDink Oct 2017 #2
Holy Shit! Zoonart Oct 2017 #6
Um, you had better not be addressing me with that. WinkyDink Oct 2017 #28
No... not meant for you... Zoonart Oct 2017 #29
Muah! :-) WinkyDink Oct 2017 #39
oops! Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2017 #3
Big fucking crybaby. nt LexVegas Oct 2017 #4
Fucker still doesn't remember the name. Unbelievable. librechik Oct 2017 #5
In addition to his lies, sounds like confabulation, typical of people with dementia. Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #7
bluffing. personally i think that is an even more damning mopinko Oct 2017 #19
The best psych exam is observing how a person functions in real life. Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #22
true, but mopinko Oct 2017 #24
Sometimes you get people who do badly on the exam but function well Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #27
yeah, and mopinko Oct 2017 #30
Yes he would not do well on the tests, and he is also flunking real life quite badly. nt Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #36
I like your comment bdamomma Oct 2017 #41
Using the strategy that worked for him. But not smart enough to realize Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #43
Couldn't even remember her name. Trump doesn't care that her husband died, procon Oct 2017 #8
He's pissed that he got called out and actually had to call her lame54 Oct 2017 #18
Didn't want to hear it Corgigal Oct 2017 #9
"The woman" LuckyCharms Oct 2017 #10
The arm folding is pretty much standard for him these days. Bleacher Creature Oct 2017 #11
What's with the crossed arms? Seems inappropriate, defensive. Any body language experts? brush Oct 2017 #12
He needs his blankie, his binkie, and a nap. FSogol Oct 2017 #17
Defensiveness, resistance, anxiety. highplainsdem Oct 2017 #20
BODY LANGUAGE!!! fierywoman Oct 2017 #32
arms crossed in the defensive lying position GusBob Oct 2017 #13
"...and she's now not saying it." WTF? nolabear Oct 2017 #14
He's trying to claim (lying/bluffing) he doesn't have to produce proof b/c Rep. Wilson backed down. highplainsdem Oct 2017 #23
I saw that. He doesn't know who he's messing with. nolabear Oct 2017 #31
3 people heard him; it's not a he said-she said situation. fierywoman Oct 2017 #33
That arm-folding looks vaguely familiar . . . . let me see . . . hatrack Oct 2017 #15
A conversation? According to Rep Wilson, Mrs Johnson's only words were "Thank You" at the end GusBob Oct 2017 #16
... handmade34 Oct 2017 #21
I can't be angry with him anymore Deb Oct 2017 #25
No problem - I'll be angry with him for you hatrack Oct 2017 #34
He needs to be OUT of the White House ASAP. CakeGrrl Oct 2017 #38
he will keep abusing and inflicting pain bdamomma Oct 2017 #42
fucking lying sack of shit, jesus steve2470 Oct 2017 #35
But nothing is beneath me! captain queeg Oct 2017 #37

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
26. And 35% of the public, but more importantly 49 PERCENT of the voting public
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 01:10 PM
Oct 2017

or about 50 million of your friends and neighbors absolutely love that he lies and dont care because he hates black, they hate black.

he hates gay, they hate gay

he hates Latino, they hate Latino

he hates Muslim, they hate Muslim

Irish_Dem

(47,173 posts)
7. In addition to his lies, sounds like confabulation, typical of people with dementia.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 12:22 PM
Oct 2017

They make up stories to cover up their memory loss.

mopinko

(70,150 posts)
19. bluffing. personally i think that is an even more damning
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 12:54 PM
Oct 2017

framing of his "stories" than to say he is lying. that he is bluffing his was through EVERYTHING about being president shows how seriously brain damaged he really is.
i want an mri. and a full psyche exam. and not from dr feelgood, either.

Irish_Dem

(47,173 posts)
22. The best psych exam is observing how a person functions in real life.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 01:01 PM
Oct 2017

The psych exam is just a short cut.
Real life tells the story.
And we have more than enough data to make a diagnosis.

So we either have a lying sociopath, or dementia confabulation.
Probably a combination of both.

Irish_Dem

(47,173 posts)
27. Sometimes you get people who do badly on the exam but function well
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 01:10 PM
Oct 2017

in real life. And vice versa. So real life functioning is the bottom line.

But yes. He would not do well on basic memory exam.

mopinko

(70,150 posts)
30. yeah, and
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 01:20 PM
Oct 2017

imho, having gone through the testing, it has a strong sexist bias. unreliable in many ways.

but still.....
he would flunk soooo badly.

Irish_Dem

(47,173 posts)
36. Yes he would not do well on the tests, and he is also flunking real life quite badly. nt
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 01:36 PM
Oct 2017

Last edited Wed Oct 18, 2017, 03:49 PM - Edit history (1)

bdamomma

(63,903 posts)
41. I like your comment
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 02:36 PM
Oct 2017

flunking real life !!! for sure

lying is quite exhausting he's been doing that all his stinking life.

Irish_Dem

(47,173 posts)
43. Using the strategy that worked for him. But not smart enough to realize
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 03:55 PM
Oct 2017

he needed a new strategy.

He could have done a Bush and just let a Cheney run the White House and he could just be a figure head and have fun. But too many ego and control issues.

procon

(15,805 posts)
8. Couldn't even remember her name. Trump doesn't care that her husband died,
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 12:24 PM
Oct 2017

and he won't care if he kills millions of people in provoking nuclear wars with No Korea and Iran.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
9. Didn't want to hear it
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 12:24 PM
Oct 2017

but he does look like a jackass in that screen capture. Remember when his daughter, that women made him feel for Syrian children? Yeah, we didn't believe him then either, too bad that little girl who was concerned for her mother's welfare didn't have his daughter, that woman's concern.

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
11. The arm folding is pretty much standard for him these days.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 12:34 PM
Oct 2017

I think he's getting really close to a complete breakdown.

fierywoman

(7,686 posts)
32. BODY LANGUAGE!!!
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 01:29 PM
Oct 2017

I don't know body language(except what I intuitively sense) and my knowledge of yoga is very shallow (but highly appreciative!). But I remember my yoga teacher from many years ago explaining to me that in yoga, your sense of being is located around your breastbone, and if you open up the chest (i.e., stand up straight with shoulders back, chest "out" (or "open&quot that it gives you a strength to deal with the world. I see F-ingM here covering himself AND slumped over.

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
14. "...and she's now not saying it." WTF?
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 12:42 PM
Oct 2017

Is he claiming Congresswoman Wilson is now saying something different or is that just the dressing on the word salad?

highplainsdem

(49,006 posts)
23. He's trying to claim (lying/bluffing) he doesn't have to produce proof b/c Rep. Wilson backed down.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 01:02 PM
Oct 2017

She nailed him immediately.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
16. A conversation? According to Rep Wilson, Mrs Johnson's only words were "Thank You" at the end
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 12:50 PM
Oct 2017

that's not a conversation. She couldn't speak from sobbing. THATS NOT A NICE CONVERSATION

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
21. ...
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 01:00 PM
Oct 2017

Crossing the arms across the chest is a classic gesture of defensiveness...
When a person feels threatened by a situation, he crosses his arms across his chest creating a barrier that helps him protect his vital organs- the lungs and the heart.

In a group the person who doesn’t feel confident is usually the one who has his arms crossed...
You'll also observe this gesture when a person feels offended. Defense is a natural reaction to an offence. When someone is humiliated or criticized, he’s likely to cross his arms to assume the defensive mode. 

http://www.psychmechanics.com/2015/04/body-language-crossing-arms.html

Deb

(3,742 posts)
25. I can't be angry with him anymore
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 01:08 PM
Oct 2017

His mental disabilities and need for care are evident to everyone. Shame on Republican politicians for allowing this to continue. Republicans are engaging in disabled/elderly abuse in my eyes. I never expected to pity trump.

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
38. He needs to be OUT of the White House ASAP.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 01:54 PM
Oct 2017

He does not have an iota of pity from me as long as he abuses this seat of power and inflicts pain and damage on American citizens.

bdamomma

(63,903 posts)
42. he will keep abusing and inflicting pain
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 02:40 PM
Oct 2017

on Americans, how many more Americans will die under his watch, oops sorry he is too distracted by the NFL players and the national anthem. WTF, in the meantime Puerto Rico is still hurting along with California. He is such a prick.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
35. fucking lying sack of shit, jesus
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 01:32 PM
Oct 2017

If he actually told the truth and made a heartfelt sincere apology, I'd actually have a tad more respect for the guy.

No way he would ever do that.

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