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applegrove

(118,719 posts)
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 06:51 PM Oct 2017

3 years ago, Stockton, California, was bankrupt. Now it's trying out a basic income.

by Dylan Matthews at Vox

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/18/16479796/stockton-california-basic-income-economic-security-experiment

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Next year, a random sample of the 300,000 residents of Stockton, a port city in California’s Central Valley, will get $500 per month ($6,000 a year) with no strings attached.

It’s the latest test of a policy known as basic income, funded not out of city revenues but by individual and foundation philanthropy. The first $1 million in funding comes from the Economic Security Project, a pro-basic income advocacy and research group co-chaired by Facebook co-founder and former New Republic publisher Chris Hughes and activists Natalie Foster and Dorian Warren; Hughes provided the group’s initial funding. Stockton Mayor Michael Tubbs hopes to launch the basic income project as early as August 2018.

The project — known as the Stockton Economic Empowerment Demonstration (SEED) — will be, in a way, the purest expression to date of Silicon Valley’s passion for basic income proposals, which many tech entrepreneurs and investors see as a necessary way to support Americans if artificial intelligence and other automation advances lead to unemployment for vast swaths of the population.

To the tech world, basic income is a way to redistribute the vast wealth that Silicon Valley creates to poorer people and localities left behind. And what better place to start than by redirecting part of a Facebook fortune to Stockton, an overwhelmingly nonwhite exurb of the Bay Area that became the largest city in the US to declare bankruptcy during the financial crisis?

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Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
1. $500/month is an insult
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 06:59 PM
Oct 2017

This is California, the world's 6th largest economy, try 10x that for a family

applegrove

(118,719 posts)
2. This is above any welfare or social security. It is a test. Lots of tests of different amounts going
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 07:07 PM
Oct 2017

on around the world.

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
7. That's funny
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 07:19 PM
Oct 2017

Some guy walks up to me and says, "I'd like to give you $ 500 a month, no strings attached."

"That's an insult, " I say. Don't you know this is California?

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
9. well, yeah the money has to come from somewhere, specifically somewhere where there is money.
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 01:45 AM
Oct 2017

In the future it would come from taxes, not from philanthropy. And then that money would go right back into the economy, and over time right back into the pockets of the rich, or the newfound competitors who were able to tap a market of people who can actually finally buy stuff, and the cycle would continue.

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
8. And if they roll this out, it'll only cost a measly $1.8B/year
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 11:28 PM
Oct 2017

triple the current budget. Who's going to pay for that?

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
10. the right people? You mean who is going to be willing to pay for that, or who are we going to make
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 01:45 AM
Oct 2017

pay for that....two entirely different questions.
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