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To the widow of Sgt. Johnson.
John Kelly stated today:
It stuns me that a member of Congress would have listened in on that conversation. It stuns me. I thought at least that was sacred.
While he repeatedly lambasted Congresswoman Wilson for listening in on the call, he did nothing to dispute the contents of the call in his comments.
While I admit this might not be the totality of his comments but if they are, it is an incredibly smart way to indirectly confirm trumps disrespectful and crass phone call to Sgt. Johnsons wife. There is nothing in his comments that refutes the contents of the Congresswomans or wifes version of the call.
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59e8fa2ae4b0df10767bb1fe?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)listening in?
ecstatic
(32,705 posts)underpants
(182,811 posts)padah513
(2,502 posts)Just like he mentors the pResident, so what's the difference. Kelly is exactly who we thought he was. I'm glad he's there to keep his guy from wigging all the way out, but he's a Trump lackey just like all the rest.
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)... crass that would make people that upset.
I don't think Kelly helped here
No Vested Interest
(5,166 posts)eShirl
(18,493 posts)add it to the rest of the lies in the heap, imo
Zoonart
(11,866 posts)to a Presidential condolence call if it is okay with the family?
forgotmylogin
(7,528 posts)When its like hey the president is calling why wouldnt you put that on speaker.
The fact that a congressperson happened to be in the car is beside the point.
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)Why are you trying to put this in a better light for Kelly? I don't care he was a general, and the fact he lost his own son does not change the fact he is voluntarily working for the most disrespectful, dangerous and incompetent POTUS in history. He's not there to prevent a war; he's there out of self-interest and ambition. Anyone with respect for America would not stand by while Trump trashes our institutions.
jrthin
(4,836 posts)That trump is a white supremacist and racist ( based on his behavior) .
LiberalFighter
(50,931 posts)For me, I will never allow their service to be an excuse for any jackass thing they do.
arthritisR_US
(7,288 posts)hundreds of servicemen through the years. Some were very fine chaps and others were complete wankers, Kelly IMO is the latter.
LiberalFighter
(50,931 posts)That also includes stop glorifying all of them. At a minimum their job is a job. For those that are in harms way is a different story. But in many cases there are those that may excel beyond expectations and they stand out above the rest. Some are recognized when it involves force while others may excel behind the line.
angrychair
(8,699 posts)I do think Kelly is dangerous and a racist but I also know what I see and I see nothing in his comments that dispute the wife and Congresswomans version of the call.
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)If you did not mean to imply such a motive on Kelly, I apologize.
angrychair
(8,699 posts)But I know that in politics that what a person doesnt say is as important as what they do say.
lostnfound
(16,179 posts)Are there any good guys left?
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)It's illegal to be holding a cell phone and talking/texting while driving in most states. Whoever was driving had to put the call on speaker and therefore it was heard by everyone in the car.
GrapesOfWrath
(524 posts)Thank you
Johonny
(20,851 posts)F this guy. She was friends of the family. He knows that. He makes it sound like a conspiracy to get Trump.
he is a Trump Whore
LiberalFighter
(50,931 posts)atreides1
(16,079 posts)It was on speaker and everyone there heard the remarks made by Trump! I'm very sure that Congresswoman Wilson had the permission of the family to go public with what Trump said.
What stuns me is that Kelly didn't do anything to correct it...he was there in the room!
ecstatic
(32,705 posts)What comforts an old career military father won't necessarily comfort a mother or wife (widow). NONE of those mfckers have common sense. None of them. And it's a damn shame.
Also, he didn't 100% rule out the possibility that an attempt was made by Pres. Obama to contact him. Did anyone catch that?
LiberalFighter
(50,931 posts)Which means he had a spouse. Who would normally be contacted in the family when there is a death in the military? I would think priority would be with the spouse over any general.
CanonRay
(14,103 posts)What was she supposed to do, jump out the window?
underpants
(182,811 posts)Johonny
(20,851 posts)are we to believe Kelly doesn't know this? There's no way Kelly doesn't know this. He's just out there throwing shade to cover for Trump's disgusting actions. It's impossible to respect Kelly after today. This is the beginning of the end for him. He's no longer the man keeping Trump from going off the deep end. He's just another clown in the car now.
underpants
(182,811 posts)ThoughtCriminal
(14,047 posts)Conservatives do not seem to have the ability to think their arguments through.
And this is after it had been made very clear that Rep. Wilson was an old friend of the family.
blondebanshee
(353 posts)"Kelly called Wilsons behavior selfish and indicated she had eroded the standards of decency in America."
WTF is John Kelly talking about? Congresswoman Wilson is a good friend of the Johnson family, not to mention she was riding in a limo with the family when Trump called and placed on speaker phone.
As far as decency goes, Mr. Kelly lost all credibility when he accepted to work for Trump.
eShirl
(18,493 posts)Guess her feelings are unimportant.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,348 posts)Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)He has to act as though he is in full support of the paranoid schizophrenic orange man and his agenda, while also finding ways to indirectly invalidate him.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)Has he once in his life said or done anything remotely close to something showing him to give ANY shits about how he talks to people?
I am so sick of the LIES
stollen
(419 posts)I, for one, called, from AFRICOM where Sgt. Johnson's Green Beret command works out of, and each office person let me express my concern at length about not only the lack of pathos in the WH, but also lack of information about what had actually happened in Niger and the timeline in which information had been released, as well as my concern about NK and my desire for impeachment.
A couple of folks said that many others had called to express their same concerns.
I called both GOP and Dem reps. I wasn't alone.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Trump's an insensitive lout, Kelly was there to witness it, and now he's trying to deflect attention to Rep. Wilson, as if it was her fault Trump's a jerk. Check your humanity, Kelly; you may have lost it somewhere on the way to the Oval Office.
Corvo Bianco
(1,148 posts)SHUT UP KELLY
YOU ARE KILLING IRONY
IRONY IS DEAD
trueblue2007
(17,218 posts)Mrs. Johnson invited EVERY PERSON IN THAT VEHICLE TO LISTEN. The people did not LISTEN IN. Kelly is a liar and i have no respect for him. NONE, he is taking Trump's side totally.
KELLY IS A SEXIST PIG A-HOLE !!!! He is a horrible man.
malaise
(269,004 posts)Johnson was part of the Congresswoman's mentor program. He was one of her stars. She was close to the family.
Black lives do matter - fuck the Con and Kelly.