Women were NEVER sacred.

Full of shit, just like his boss. Pretty obvious that neither one respect women.

I don't like him. Last time I criticized him a few here on DU gave me a hard time over it .

under this administration. Considering the fact that women make up about 51% of the US population that seems like a fair and equal representation to me.

going back? No way, Jose.

They can't accept progress and need to retire.

...Back in my day...

Its not who I am, nor is it how I've lived my life.

It's not what I want for my daughter or granddaughters. It's not what I want for my nieces or grand nieces. I want better for them than I had. Not to go backward! Never that.

I have no kids, but my nieces and grands are not going back if I have anything to say about it...and I do.

She's the only child I'll ever have, and I have obligations to her and my nieces. I also have obligations to all of their future children, not to mention my own self.

My family is mostly women. We've all had daughters, my daughter was first but everyone has had daughters since. The second generation is proving to be the same with 4 females so far and no males. Somehow I became the matriarch for all of us. Everyone, be they blood related or extended ladies looks to me for cohesiveness and guidance. I love my fierce women, and I love and will fight to protect my ladies with everything I have.

I'm not meaning to make this small, or selfish. I'm just trying to explain how much skin me and mine have in this whole endeavor. I've emboldened all my ladies to be fierce ladies full of power, and now we're working on a whole new generation of empowered women.

So far, were all fierce, and the adults aren't buying this BS that we're being sold. Two of my nieces were born into a RW family, we may have lost their mom to date, but I've enlightened both of them. We're currently working on the one RW husband in our midst. He's weakening. As I said, were fierce.

We're doing our part, one woman at a time. At least on my side of this female dominated family.

I am fighting for mine as well before I go away. I, like you are fighting for them all.

Thank you.

Kelly thinks we are sacred...like cows lead to slaughter.

Fugg that bastard, we are not going back to his wet dream that women serve their men.

Sorry to be crass, I am angry.

If you can catch a rerun or a clip online later, I think you would like it.

Thanks for the heads up, spooky...I don't watch much TV.

I only turn that or the computer on each morning to see if we are still here. Sad, isn't it. That is where we are now.

Trump or his sycophants provide another distraction, or worse.

We all know exactly what you mean by "sacred" and none of us are fooled by your bullshit.

What he meant was scared and scarred. Yep, that is how he likes his women.

What I remember is more than one wife in the neighborhood with black eyes and swollen lips that could not leave their marriages because women could rarely support children on the menial jobs they were able to get. It wasn't until the 1980's that police in some places could arrest a man for beating his wife half to death if they saw evidence of the beating themselves. I remember Frannie beating his wife with closed fists and saying to my dad "Why don't you do something?". His answer was "It is his wife. It's wrong but he is allowed." I remember girls getting shamed if they got pregnant out of wedlock but the boy was never blamed. I remember working and being sexually harassed by my boss and my only recourse was to either put up with it or quit my job. If those are part of being sacred, I am glad my grand daughters are not considered sacred.

catalyst for police action. Tracey Thurman's estranged husband brutally beat and stabbed her multiple times in front of the Torrington, Ct. police leaving her paralyzed. The police ignored her restraining order against him, because they were married. They watched as he stabbed her. She was the 1st woman to win a case against the police for violating her civil rights.

I lived near there at the time when the movie came out. What was the PD's reaction to the movie? Shame, remorse, sorry? No, they were mad because the cops in the movie had dirty shoes, their police officers would never wear dirty shoes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurman_v._City_of_Torrington

Women have come a long way out of that "sacred" cocoon. But the body count still continues.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029727699

Maybe he thinks Trump only grabbed the _______ of women who were asking for it.

We wear dresses and stocking and heals. We wear shorts and tanks. We are provocative in our leggings and our five year old sweatpants, washed so many times and so comfortable to put on. He wants to take us back to the mans world and I for one am not going.

His defense of the 45 response is beneath contempt. I had a small ray of hope he was different. He is not. That he lost a son and demeans this young wife of her loss is despicable. Actually, this makes him worse than 45. May he roast in hell.

Sacred with great honor? Like the Virgin Mary? Like with very few reproductive rights nor opportunities for personal growth not dictated by men?

he really meant "seen but not heard".

He meant exactly what he said.

probably means silent and outwardly accepting of whatever men decide they are there for.

I know older men like this, I'm related to some of them. They believe that women are a convenience who are there for them and that they are worth only what they, the men, want them for.

Sacred...that is a strange word to use.

All I have ever wanted personally and professionally was equality. Just treat me and pay me the same as anyone else and don't tell me what I can do with my body. I don't want to be revered as sacred, protected, or given special treatment.

and mistreatment of, women at that time were what led to the women's movement of the '60s and '70s.

I don't think their minds have evolved past 1961.

Fancy that...only some women are sacred and to many of the GOP the rest of us are just lying whores.

I am beyond angry. That Kelly would attack Myeshia Johnson and Wilson, what he did is despicable. She is a 24 year old widow six months pregnant and he attacked her and defend trump. Yet this is what they do, attack women.

We loved and did what we could for our own country.

My mother, and most of the women in the neighborhood in the fifties, were little more than drudges and/or punching bags to men who often couldn't give a shit what they thought or felt. My grandfather left my beloved grandmother when my father was three -- she was penniless and barely made it the 500 miles to an aunt's house, where she was welcomed. She never remarried. I have no idea how she managed -- that's not in the records.

Sacred. What shit.

They grew up not too far apart in similar working class Irish Catholic neighborhoods in Boston. O'Donnell points out that women were not "sacred" in those neighborhoods - they were beaten by their husbands but could not divorce them because the Catholic Church would not allow it. Many of the women worked menial jobs where they could not earn good wages.

O'Donnell just finished the first twenty minutes of his show tonight, every minute of it was shredding Kelly.

Kelly has dishonored his service. He does not deserve the rank he once held. The women he dismissed today are much better human beings than he ever was.

beside him as he talked about Kelly and his phony lamenting over the good old days when women were sacred.

Then Kelly proceeded to insult Rep. Wilson, not even giving her the dignity of referring to her by name but calling her an "empty barrel". Sacred women, my ass.

Lawrence and I are the same age, born in 51. Lawrence evolved; Kelly did not. He still regards women as chattel and people of color as lesser humans not even worthy of names.

Of course, before the program was over The Dotard was tweeting his butt off about the show, complete with ALL CAPS, exclamation points, and the (D) after Rep. Wilson's (D!D!D!D!) name.

Bunches

alcoholic, bored shitless Mother?

I was born in 1955 and suggest he look at the television commercials of the era.

Women as rugs, suicidal over bad coffee or subservient to the master.

He is sick and delusional. Also a kiss ass to dump!

yeah...we were so sacred back in those days.

Which was a popular meme years ago. But the funny thing about pedestals is that they're usually small, with not much room to maneuver. And very easy to fall off and get hurt. No thank you.

Perfect.

...same culture, same era. O'Donnell pointed out the racial segregation, and on women he added to your observations that wives could be beaten every week, and that the parish prist would just tell them to go home and stay married.

Kelly did himself no credit by taking this assignment on behalf of his boss.

New day I was listening to the news but not watching. I heard this idiot spouting pure bull shit and asked my husband which Trump idiot is that? He told me it was John Kelly, I don’t remember what he was talking about anymore, but he sounded just like his boss. And, he is.

I didn't march back then because we were "sacred"!!!

Stand still, be admired, maybe fall off if you try to move - that seems to be about it.

I too remember the days of "Help Wanted:Male" columns in the want ads, when women could be fired for getting married or getting pregnant (married or not), when lenders and landlords could legally turn down women - I think I like the present better,

And since Kelly seems to have forgotten - women have always worked, even when they were confined to low status drudgery. It was only for a brief period in Western history that middle-class women became decorations.

We would be a fallen woman. Scorned and no longer sacred.

"were sweet" (Jeffers/Mormon Cult); accepted less pay for same work as men; played dumb so as not to intimidate; etc., etc.

Kelly what in the hell are you saying? What are you lamenting about? That those good old days of silent, obedient "sacred" women are waning? especially silent subservient black women. Oh Kelly, man up and get a backbone, women with opinions and who want equality (PAY) aren't going to hurt you.

This comment of his really bothered me. Especially after a very hard day at work. No, Kelly - don't hold me as sacred - just give me equal pay.

Gold Star families; KIA soldiers; religion; etc.

KELLY SEEMS AS NUTS AS HIS BOSS.

He threw away his reputation and honor for an adulterous, irreligious, disrespectful, treasonous CRIMINAL.

selected women meaning women of a certain class or from a certain family are of a certain Socio economic status, were to be respected and honored and treated well.

The rest were considered easy and available, if the man was looking for some free p-----, And/or workhorses to do a lot of hard dirty work.

And has already been said, even those who were "put on a pedestal" still had to deal with discrimination and a lot of other things which Have already been mentioned.

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Yup!