Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
18 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies

FSogol

(45,524 posts)
1. The Fears boys. A perfect Aptronym!
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 10:48 AM
Oct 2017

An aptronym is a personal name aptly or peculiarly suited to its owner.

Iggo

(47,564 posts)
4. I gotta look that up..
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 11:05 AM
Oct 2017

Well, goddam. It's a word!

ap·tro·nym

/ˈaptrəˌnim/

noun

noun: aptronym; plural noun: aptronyms; noun: aptonym; plural noun: aptonyms

a person's name that is regarded as amusingly appropriate to their occupation.
"he began collecting aptronyms when he saw an ad for a flower shop operated by Flora Gardner"

Origin

1920s: from apt + -onym, probably on the pattern of patronym

Yonnie3

(17,479 posts)
2. Link to news story
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 11:00 AM
Oct 2017
Three supporters of white nationalist Richard Spencer were arrested Thursday in connection with an incident in which a shot was fired.

Three supporters of white nationalist Richard Spencer were arrested Thursday in connection with an incident in which a shot was fired, according to Alachua County court records.

William Henry Fears, 30; Colton Gene Fears, 28; and Tyler Tenbrink, 28; were charged with attempted homicide and held in the Alachua County jail.

William Fears told the Gainesville Sun on Thursday that he believed James Fields, who drove his car into a crowd of protesters in Charlottesville, Virginia, wasn’t unjustified.
...


Mr. Fears, may you rot in hell.

http://www.gainesville.com/news/20171020/three-charged-in-shooting-after-spencer-talk

Yonnie3

(17,479 posts)
5. Even worse ...
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 11:12 AM
Oct 2017

I don't heartily subscribe to the whole Heaven and Hell thing.

My Bad!

How about:

I wish him a very long life and that a thousand fire ants populate his gonads for that thousand years?

ProfessorGAC

(65,159 posts)
6. 28, 28, & 30
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 11:20 AM
Oct 2017

What propels guys this young to be so bitter and angry? How bad could their experiences have been to make young guys angry old men?

Yonnie3

(17,479 posts)
7. It is likely they are second or third generation angry old men.
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 11:31 AM
Oct 2017

They were taught their hate starting in the cradle. It is the only answer I can think of.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
9. This pretty much kills my hope in "The next generation will fix it".
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 11:43 AM
Oct 2017

White supremacists, AnCaps, and Paleolibertarians have far too many young people in their rankings.

College Republicans - yeah, why IS that a thing?

FSogol

(45,524 posts)
10. There were only 20 Nazi shitheads there. Protesters numbered in the thousands.
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 11:56 AM
Oct 2017

They aren't the future, Trumpy represents their last gasp at the spotlight before they are swept away by history and by people who know better.

ProfessorGAC

(65,159 posts)
12. I Didn't Mean To Suggest They Were The Future
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 12:05 PM
Oct 2017

Just wondering how people get this disgruntled in such a hurry that they think nazis, klansmen, and scumbags like Spender are their answer.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
15. It is often young people who get radicalized
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 12:20 PM
Oct 2017

The oldest of the September 11th hijackers was 33, the rest were in their 20s. Timothy McVeigh was 27 when he bombed Oklahoma City. Bill Ayers was 25 when the Weather Underground started bombings. The three members killed in the Greenwich Village townhouse explosion were 22, 22 and 28.

As people get older, they often realize violence is rarely the answer and they develop families, ties things that center people.

But young people, particularly those facing what the see to be a diminished opportunity compare to others or previous generations, we can lack the foresight to see the world for what it is. I spent my teens and 20s being a generally pissed off bastard. I eventually grew up.

Yonnie3

(17,479 posts)
16. "I spent my teens and 20s being a generally pissed off bastard,"
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 06:05 PM
Oct 2017

describes me very well. I've gotten pissed off for four more decades, but the bastard part was too much work.

I was going to say that what pisses me off has changed, but it is mostly the same. To name a few: politicians harming people, inequality, racism and rich bastards screwing people over. What has changed is what I do about it.

As you say, violence is rarely the answer, but we did take to the streets and caused a big commotion over civil rights and the Vietnam War and were viewed as dangerous and potentially violent by the government. There were violent people among us. What I note, that is very different in the present, is that the protests, rallies, and violence seem directed at people rather than government.

I haven't thought this through very well, but I believe the radicalization of younger people happens for similar reasons that gangs thrive. The feeling that their life is unfair ( "diminished opportunity" ) and cannot be changed except for joining up and fighting. It doesn't work, but no one they believe tells them that.

ProfessorGAC

(65,159 posts)
17. Yeah, That Makes Plenty of Sense
Sun Oct 22, 2017, 06:51 AM
Oct 2017

But, this isn't really radicalized violence. This is petty criminal behavior being excused by the extremist views.
While I concur with everything you said, the root from which this sort of extremism sprouts seems more ridiculous than jihadi nutjobs and the like
The nature of american males who feel like their whole life has been unfair, make for easy recruits. But what gets them to the point where they see that ideology as a solution?

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
11. We can thank those pieces of shit - now it is legal to ban Spencer as a terrorist leader.
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 12:05 PM
Oct 2017

His "rallies" have nothing to do with speech: they are physical terror attacks. He and his supporters can be legally banned.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
13. It seems to me that any future venue would be wise to require a substantial damage deposit
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 12:06 PM
Oct 2017

The public university has to make its space available, but I think it's not unreasonable for them to require a big damage deposit from the likes of Richard Spencer, based on the record of the miscreants who show up for his appearances.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Attempted homicide suspec...