I would have loved to see the show.

I'd see Michael just about every week, or so. Shy guy, very nice. He also graduated from high school with some people I later came to know. His school was a rival to mine.

Years later I was a part of a group that gave him an award. I spent some time talking with him about our long time ago meetings and the people we know in common, and it was lovely. He made it a point to talk with everyone, and was among the very last people to leave the reception. Some people he had known for years, some he was just meeting, but pretty much everyone was from the Flint Michigan area, so there was a strong connection, all around.

One thing I'll say about Michael - he has never forgotten his roots. I have immense respect for both him and his work.

Went to the same church, too. I'm proud of this, he is a hero to me. They refuse to put him in the hall of fame there. Bunch of damn right wing morons.

She was pretty politically conservative - not rabidly but still. She turned around and there stood Michael, offering his hand - she knew who he was and, of course, shook his hand, but I bet the look on her face was PRICELESS.

I am a huge fan of Michael's - we are just a year apart, so my experiences growing up in the Flint area (I graduated from Grand Blanc), are the same as his. We saw the heights and the depths of our birth great city.

He still comes to town, on occasion, but not so much, now that his father has died.

At the High School in Santa Rosa, CA. Folks were walking away when we arrived saying the place was full, we walked on, milled about, crossed the street for ice cream, came back and milled about some more, then Michael walked up and spoke to the outside group before going in. A lot of people left then, but when he started speaking inside they let some of us in for the "Standing Room" section.

I find that, um, "thought provoking," although most of my thoughts involve obscenity.

I will never forgive him, Michael Moore, for all the deaths in Iraq that took place because he was too ignorant, too self important, too self absorbed to participate in a shred of sanity in 2000.

He was, in fact, a latter day Susan Sarandon, and let's be clear, just as Sarandon will be responsible for many deaths, Moore is as well.

What was the death toll in Iraq again? Anything like the death toll at Columbine?

But his business thrives when republicans are in power... how is that for thought provoking?

So one man, with an opinion, which he is allowed in a free country, is responsible for George W, and all the deaths in Iraq he spurned?

If only we had a time machine we could go back and make sure he was never born.

Same goes for Sarandon too right? She and Moore have this god like power that whatever they say, people do, with no question, no research, no investigation for themselves. Thousands of people. Millions maybe. Wow, what incredible mind control. Scary. We almost need a super hero to conquer them and their supernatural abilities.

The fact is that Moore and Sarandon both worked to rationalize the inconceivable.

There are stupid people who take these vacuous morons seriously.

I'm a scientist, and I'm not into "time machines." But frankly, the world would have been a better place without Moore and his apologetics for that awful ignorant and fraudulent excuse for a human being, Ralph Nader.

Moore makes money when the Republicans are in power; he was irrelevant when Obama was president.

I consider him a piece of garbage.

By the way, you're perfectly right about the first amendment. Everyone is allowed to say anything, even the KKK orange nightmare in the Whitehouse.

This does not, of course, limit (yet) my ability to express my contempt for the orange nightmare, nor does it limit my ability to express my disgust for people like Moore and Sarandon who basically minimize the very real impact of turning this country over to the likes of Bush and Trump.

OK?

OK?

...use for yours, OK?

You can worship the asshole who in 2000 declared "Bush is the same as Gore." I am perfectly content to insist that this garbage claim lead to the death of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi deaths, and I'm going die myself without forgiving it.

Moore is an ass.

Emotion is the death of reason, isn't it? Surely a scientist knows that. Surely a scientist knows that there were many, many reasons Gore lost Florida, and therefore the election including:

--a partisan Supreme Court stopped the recount because apparently counting votes is un-democratic. A media review/recount one year later found Gore the winner, by a narrow margin;
--voting errors by Democrats, including the infamous butterfly ballot in Palm Beach county, cost Gore 15,000-25,000 votes;
--Katherine Harris' purging of the voter rolls in Florida removed 94,000 overwhelmingly Democratic voters, 97% incorrectly;
--in addition, because Florida was one of 13 states that bar felons who have served their time from voting, 31% of black men in Florida could not vote at all. Gore got 97% of the black vote in Florida;
--there were NINE 3rd-party candidates on the ballot in Florida, each of whom received more than 543 votes, or the winning margin for Bush;
--and 12% of registered Democrats crossed over and voted for Bush: more than 200,000 votes.

But for some--and I have a theory about this--it was NaderNaderNader! (and Michael Moore! and Susan Sarandon!) who cost Gore the election, not any of the above or anything Gore himself did/was (Joe Lieberman ffs).

So my theory is two-fold (not that this matters to you, because as a scientist, only facts matter. I do apologize, in advance):

Blaming Nader offered a convenient out (it was those guys!). But even more important and disastrous, blaming Nader obscured a real and growing danger to election integrity, one that has only spread and become more blatant, and was used to great, even decisive effect in this last election: voter disenfranchisement, vote suppression. This has been obvious, even overt for nearly two decades, and STILL we have no response...other than waiting for the issue to work its way through increasingly unreliable courts.

One could almost think that blaming Nader was a story planted by the evil but sometimes clever Republicans (looking at you, Karl Rove et al) in order to distract a Democratic party hellbent on shifting any blame. And it worked, spectacularly. Hook, line and sinker.

If we are no smarter than this, we deserve to lose.

Couldn't have said it any better.