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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWatched Anthony Bourdain's Parts Unknown Pittsburg tonight. At one point
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he was interviewing a white working class person who said about Politics that for many politics is "if I can't do well then I don't want you to do well" or something to that effect. Did anyone else see that? I thought it was a telling take on politics in the USA. White working class burning down the house when they are suffering.
(later)
"If the economy is not going to work for me then I don't want it to work for anybody"..someone from a town near Pittsburg put it to the mayor that way. Mayor was just flushing out Bourdain's point about angry voters by quoting someone else.
elleng
(131,075 posts)applegrove
(118,759 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)applegrove
(118,759 posts)and elites (liberal and republican). Destroy, Destroy, destroy.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)That lifting up everyone is the way to go. He's a chicken shit. He's another one who knew about Weinstein and blames Hillary for not saying anything. HRC didn't date a victim, FFS.
applegrove
(118,759 posts)to a woman harrased and Bourdain keeping quiet it is pretty much the woman's choice how she wants to handle it. You can get horrid blowback for knowing and speaking the truth about someone evil. I did and got post traumatic stress disorder i was attacked so often and so personally. I would not wish that on anyone.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Yet he wants a pat on the back for this? Calling HRC shameful? What the fuck, he knew about the rapes. He has never done a single thing in support of working women or their healthy. So he wants a prize now for saying "her too" while shitting on another woman who did not know as much as he did. Give me a break, he's a thoughtless ass at best.
JI7
(89,262 posts)admires her.
people went after him for his silence on CNN propping up Trump and the sex abuse that goes on in the restaurant/food industry .
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)He should have starred with an apology for his own failings. And I bet he didn't say a damn thing to these hateful people who want others to suffer. He's gone along to get along all his life. Still is, I see.
JI7
(89,262 posts)so instead of doing well and a minority doing even better they would rather burn it down .
justhanginon
(3,290 posts)Not only is he a minority, he is super smart, extremely well spoken, totally a class act, a proven family man and had no scandals to speak of during his administration. Deep down that had to really hurt these sewer dwellers.
JI7
(89,262 posts)than they are.
and now they are even more angry at the comparisons .
get the red out
(13,468 posts)And the second reason they vote against their own interests, the first being "social" issues.
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elleng
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'What's missing is an economic plan that helps everyone, not just techies and computer geeks, but everyday people.' (Said by a senior African American life-long Pittsburgh resident.)
Braddock Mayor Fetterman quoted someone as having said what applegrove said, to him in this distressed, bankrupt town. (Race was not mentioned, incidentally.) Discussion proceeded on challenge of abandonment of Braddock.
Recall: John Fetterman: 'He won the Braddock mayoral election in 2005 by one vote, and was re-elected in 2009 and 2013. As mayor, Fetterman has drawn international attention for trying to revitalize the economy in Braddock, with an article in The New York Times, an appearance on Comedy Centrals The Colbert Report and a Levis jeans ad. He has made equality, environmental protection, gay rights, immigration and marijuana legalization major campaign issues. Fetterman is a self-described democratic socialist.[1] He ran for the United States Senate in 2016, but was defeated in the Democratic primary.' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Fetterman_(politician)
nolabear
(41,991 posts)Those robots? That was us. The high tech they feared and still fear, though those mills were long gone. Pittsburgh is two cities now, the European provincial salt of the earth neighborhood driven families who dont know what to do and the new technology driven nomads who are revitalizing but can easily move on.
I didnt hear that line but as it so happens Mr. Bear is back there tonight, having returned from Seattle for a week of training those very techies that keep the place going.
I hated Pittsburgh. It was less like me than any place Ive ever lived, but I respect the people. Theyre a bit lost and very old world Catholic Eastern European conservative but they werent mean. For what its worth.