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doc03

(35,346 posts)
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 08:18 PM Oct 2017

I have MSNBC on right now. Democrats are still pushing the phone

call controversy. Democrats are shooting themselves in the foot, all this does is fire up
Trump's base. Just let it go, he is not going to apologize all this does is distract the media
from Russia, Obamacare, tax cuts for the rich and his hurricane response. He loves this, he
is playing the media like a violin.

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I have MSNBC on right now. Democrats are still pushing the phone (Original Post) doc03 Oct 2017 OP
Relax Loki Liesmith Oct 2017 #1
All "ole Bone Spurs" has, or will ever have, is his base. JoeOtterbein Oct 2017 #2
You are exactly right nini Oct 2017 #3
Absolutely... FarPoint Oct 2017 #6
There's nothing in his history that supports the idea that he has a plan for anything. Kaleva Oct 2017 #13
He is a moron nini Oct 2017 #16
That may have worked for him before but not now Kaleva Oct 2017 #23
I'm talking about the average citizen here nini Oct 2017 #24
Mueller and others are a far greater threat to Trump... Kaleva Oct 2017 #25
Fuck his base. As he said they will support him even if they see him shoot someone JI7 Oct 2017 #4
Exactly oberliner Oct 2017 #7
I hate to say this but if it would have been one of the white soldiers doc03 Oct 2017 #5
His "people" are really getting tired of Trump's bs. rockfordfile Oct 2017 #8
I mean Trump's supporters, what like 98% of them still back the a--hole and I doc03 Oct 2017 #9
If HIllary voters turn to support trump because of the NFL thing and this, then fuck Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #26
I disagree. He'll get his ignoramus base but not more votes. Even smarter repugs are getting tired.. brush Oct 2017 #14
This. The fact that it's a black soldier and a black congresswoman with a rhinestone cowboy hat Azathoth Oct 2017 #19
Anything fires up his base, low information Trumpsters complain about everything Thinkingabout Oct 2017 #10
It's time to let this go FakeNoose Oct 2017 #11
OFFS It is absolutely scandalous that Myeshia has been denied viewing her husband's body. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #12
I believe she had the right to view his body LeftInTX Oct 2017 #20
She asked to see the body and the military refused. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #21
Huge coverup, imagine Barack preventing Joe Sixpack cowboy from bumfuck Texas from seeing Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #27
Its NOT expanding his base so who cares if they're played to? It does make dems more resolute so uponit7771 Oct 2017 #15
This episode seems to be sticking. cwydro Oct 2017 #17
It is our duty to stand up to those Republican bullies. All of them. Tatiana Oct 2017 #18
I agree Raine Oct 2017 #22
Yes, let's not hold Trump responsible for this egregious behavior gratuitous Oct 2017 #28

Kaleva

(36,309 posts)
13. There's nothing in his history that supports the idea that he has a plan for anything.
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 09:21 PM
Oct 2017

His own SOS Tillerson called him a fucking moron.

nini

(16,672 posts)
16. He is a moron
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 12:32 AM
Oct 2017

Who happens to be the master at gaslighting and wearing people down and distracting them. He has to do that to keep the focus off reality.

Kaleva

(36,309 posts)
23. That may have worked for him before but not now
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 12:33 PM
Oct 2017

Mueller and his staff isn't wearing down and same goes for the WP, NYT, The Guardian, Lawrence O'Donnell, the Repub Never Trumpers, Rachel Maddow and others.

nini

(16,672 posts)
24. I'm talking about the average citizen here
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 12:35 PM
Oct 2017

Especially his dumbass followers.

AND look at how the discussions on here go with multiple posts on the same crap he says. Yea.. it's working.

doc03

(35,346 posts)
5. I hate to say this but if it would have been one of the white soldiers
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 08:30 PM
Oct 2017

we may get some traction. But being he was black and the Congresswomen is black it will only
give him more votes. I can't even repeat the things his people are saying about this.

doc03

(35,346 posts)
9. I mean Trump's supporters, what like 98% of them still back the a--hole and I
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 08:41 PM
Oct 2017

know some people that voted for Hillary that have turned since the NFL thing and this.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
26. If HIllary voters turn to support trump because of the NFL thing and this, then fuck
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 12:58 PM
Oct 2017

them, we dont want them, it means they are racists.

brush

(53,787 posts)
14. I disagree. He'll get his ignoramus base but not more votes. Even smarter repugs are getting tired..
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 10:34 PM
Oct 2017

of his act.

Azathoth

(4,610 posts)
19. This. The fact that it's a black soldier and a black congresswoman with a rhinestone cowboy hat
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 12:53 AM
Oct 2017

makes this exciting for Dump's racist base. They are energized by the whole thing. Meanwhile, most low-info voters tune in and see Trump feuding with yet another black person and say to themselves "Well, 95% of black people hate him, so who knows which side is right."

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
11. It's time to let this go
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 08:47 PM
Oct 2017

Everybody has had their say, and it's obvious that Cheeto will never backtrack or apologize.
He never apologized to Obama for all the shit he did, why would he start apologizing now?

I do feel bad for Sergeant Johnson's widow and family, but any more talk after this is counter-productive.



SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
12. OFFS It is absolutely scandalous that Myeshia has been denied viewing her husband's body.
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 09:00 PM
Oct 2017

How she has been treated stinks to high heaven. We would be doing a huge dishonor to Le David Johnson to just sweep this under the rug. We must help her get an independent autopsy and demand an investigation into what happened.

If we as Democrats don't fight for a wronged Gold Star African American family, who the fuck will?

Russia, taxes, Obamacare and hurricane relief are all important issues, but we can multitask. Honestly.

LeftInTX

(25,371 posts)
20. I believe she had the right to view his body
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 01:27 AM
Oct 2017

She probably didn't pursue it if the funeral home told her no

She is grief stricken and at the time she reluctantly accepted it. (She also is very busy planning the funeral) Once he's buried, the permanence of the situation hits her.

He had autopsy performed.

She is acting out of grief. She is not currently on a fact-finding mission, but is probably searching for closure. Do you really think she wants his body exhumed?

If she wants it exhumed, I support her. But I believe she is grieving, not being a political sleuth.

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
21. She asked to see the body and the military refused.
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 02:46 AM
Oct 2017

When you say she "was acting out of grief," you are suggesting she was not being rational. That is patronizing and insulting.

Of course she is grieving. But what she was saying was not bizarre or irrational. She had every right to see her husband's remains. She will never have closure until she does. She needs to confirm that there was indeed a body in that coffin and that the body was her husband's.

She had already been lied to by this administration. Why should she just take their word for anything? She is doing what any rational wife would do.

It is not clear if there was any autopsy. La David Johnson's family certainly was not provided an independent autopsy.

Today, on GMA, Myeshia again very clearly expressed a desire to see La David's body. It is scandalous for the military to be denying her this right.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
27. Huge coverup, imagine Barack preventing Joe Sixpack cowboy from bumfuck Texas from seeing
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 12:59 PM
Oct 2017

someone in a situation like this, controversial circumstances surrounding their loved ones death, etc.


He would not be able to find a safe place to hide from the deplorable pricks

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
15. Its NOT expanding his base so who cares if they're played to? It does make dems more resolute so
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 10:44 PM
Oct 2017

... I never understand these post with the focus on Red Don's base.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
18. It is our duty to stand up to those Republican bullies. All of them.
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 12:40 AM
Oct 2017

Sgt. Johnson's wife deserves to know the truth about what happened to her husband and his children deserve to someday know how their father passed on while serving his country honorably.

And the American public deserve an apology from the Liars in Chief. We should NEVER back down.

McCain has it right. We need to remind the public everyday that President Bone Spurs is a draft-dodging liar and chickenhawk.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
22. I agree
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 03:41 AM
Oct 2017

time should be spent talking about his horrible tax plan that's nothing but a giveaway to billionaires.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
28. Yes, let's not hold Trump responsible for this egregious behavior
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 01:15 PM
Oct 2017

I mean, the man's barely 71 years old, new at his job, and means well. No sense in dwelling on his little faux pas. Trump would have forgotten all about a similar slight by now. Bygones.

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