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GOP Goal Is To Drive US Into Insolvency. Tax Plan Does That. Starve Government. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Oct 2017 OP
Of course it is... world wide wally Oct 2017 #1
Then they can nullify the constitution and make the uSA a theocracy. kimbutgar Oct 2017 #2
Then they can completely kill the government liberal N proud Oct 2017 #3
There are really only 2 choices for the ultra-wealthy (mainly GOP supporters) Moostache Oct 2017 #4
(3) Contemplate their humanity and the needs of the sick and disabled Kolesar Oct 2017 #8
We really shouldn't leave things lying around to steal. Like Medicaid and SS funding. librechik Oct 2017 #5
It's also their immigration plan... Wounded Bear Oct 2017 #6
Plus sell off our public lands. jeffreyi Oct 2017 #7

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
4. There are really only 2 choices for the ultra-wealthy (mainly GOP supporters)
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 11:07 AM
Oct 2017
1) accept the fact that taxes are the price they pay for a secure and thriving society

Without taxes, and a progressive taxation system at that, the basic needs of society (a peaceful dispute resolution and contract enforcement system in the courts, a law enforcement arm in the police, a civil service system in the infrastructure, fire fighting capability and emergency healthcare services and a common defense in the military) cannot be maintained.

This of course says nothing about the other many functions of government in providing opportunities and education and benefits of citizenship on the population.

Keep trying to starve the beast...what happens next is as predictable as a sun rise in the East...

2) refuse to pay into the security of a civil society and watch as anarchy, superstition, and religious fervor tear things apart and roads, bridges, airports, rail lines and everything they bring crash down around you.

I know that many of the rich in this country have an out-sized opinion of themselves and just how much responsibility for their success is owed to the country they live in and the bills paid forward from the past to allow it in the first place. They romanticize the "self-made man" at every turn and ignore the truth at all costs.

If you are rich and in America, sure you probably worked hard and focused like a laser on short-term and mid-term goals. You poured your heart and soul into whatever it is that you gained remuneration and financial rewards for to be clear. BUT...you did NOTHING to establish the conditions that allow for such things in the first place and if you support tax cuts that explode the deficit while bemoaning the very same deficit as the reason infrastructure and education are too costly and health-care too unattainable for all, then you are doomed to a collapsing society, a breakdown of the very things that allow you to thrive in the first place and eventually, a total loss of everything including life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Pay some now, or pay all later, but make no mistake, the bill will come due.

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
8. (3) Contemplate their humanity and the needs of the sick and disabled
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 12:17 PM
Oct 2017

Your number two is rather chilling and dead on.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
5. We really shouldn't leave things lying around to steal. Like Medicaid and SS funding.
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 11:20 AM
Oct 2017

They've (giant financial global interests) been trying to steal that for decades. They stole a lot of it in 2008. Now they want to get the rest. And as soon as the bubble they're building in the stock market bursts, they'llget it, if they haven't gotten it through tax cuts first.

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