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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGuys, it's pretty obvious it was Hillary* colluding with the Russians. Consider all the facts:
* Hillary has been the beneficiary of Russian money since the 1980s in her various business projects.
* Hillary hired a campaign manager, Paul Manafort, who has represented various pro-Russian interests and pro-Russian governments for years.
* Hillary was instrumental in changing the DNC platform away from a support measure for Ukraine against Russian aggression.
* Hillary hired as part of her campaign Michael Flynn, who lobbied for pro-Russian business measures and was once Putin's guest of honor at a state dinner.
* Hillary gave a speech at the Mayflower Hotel where she and members of her campaign met with the Russian ambassador and where she declared, "We desire to live peacefully and in friendship with Russia . . . we are not bound to be adversaries. We should seek common ground based on shared interests."
* There was that one time in June 2016 where Chelsea Clinton arranged for a meeting with agents of the Russian government who were promising to deliver dirt on Donald Trump
* Hillary was advised on foreign policy by Carter Page, who repeatedly met with Russian officials during the 2016 campaign
* In July 2016 at a press conference, Hillary openly invited Vladimir Putin to hack Donald Trump's emails
* Hillary was the overwhelming beneficiary of Russian generated false news stories in her favor and against Donald Trump designed to be spread virally over social media.
Not only that, but if Hillary had been elected President, my guess is that she'd hire Flynn as her National Security Advisor, hire a Secretary of State who was once awarded the Order of Friendship by Vladimir Putin for his business dealings with Russia, hire an attorney general who had met with the Russian Ambassador three times during the campaign and lie about it, hold an impromptu closed door meeting (to everyone but Russian media) with the Russian Ambassador and Foreign Minister where she reveals classified information to them and brags to them about her political motivations for firing the FBI director, and steadfastly refuse to enact sanctions against Russia after the bill for said sanctions passed Congress nearly unanimously.
Because--after all--it was Hillary* who colluded with the Russians.
*Use your computer's "Find and Replace" function at your own discretion.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)want to do something.
Something very overt.
FUCK I hope I am not the only one OUTRAGED at these FUCKING TRAITORS
defacto7
(13,485 posts)ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)Any school child can see that they always want to say, "yeah but he/she did it worse!" Don't think it will work this time.
Vinca
(50,276 posts)Leave it to the GOP to ignore Trump and Russia and go directly to investigations on Hillary and uranium.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)The stupid is endemic.
Turning it around gives it a perspective I take for granted. Good.
world wide wally
(21,744 posts)JHan
(10,173 posts)you have to be really really dumb to believe the "Hillary colluded with Russia" line - unfortunately, there are millions of dumb walking about in America.