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Breaking news: Flake announced he is NOT running again!!!!!! (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Oct 2017 OP
Not one of the worst flamingdem Oct 2017 #1
I am afraid that we will see all four of exboyfil Oct 2017 #2
Arizona has been trending to the dems sharp_stick Oct 2017 #7
I think the opposite. dixiegrrrrl Oct 2017 #9
Hope so exboyfil Oct 2017 #11
Yes. There's a backlash against Republicans but ... Kablooie Oct 2017 #13
Yeah..but... dixiegrrrrl Oct 2017 #18
Make no mistake, Trump and his people are thrilled about this bearsfootball516 Oct 2017 #3
So am I sharp_stick Oct 2017 #8
Thats how to do it! VOX Oct 2017 #15
He wouldn't get reelected, so he wants to free himself like Corker Alice11111 Oct 2017 #4
That is what I am hoping genxlib Oct 2017 #5
!!! Alice11111 Oct 2017 #6
A prayer to the Goddess... dixiegrrrrl Oct 2017 #10
What are they upset about? exboyfil Oct 2017 #12
He's criticized Dotard a few times, but he quickly fell in Alice11111 Oct 2017 #14
Before that.... dixiegrrrrl Oct 2017 #17
Arizona has 40% self identified conservatives Awsi Dooger Oct 2017 #16

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
2. I am afraid that we will see all four of
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 03:37 PM
Oct 2017

these vacated Senate seats filled with the likes of Roy Moore (Alabama, both Arizona seats, and Tennessee). The votes will still be the same, but the craziness factor will be exponentially larger.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
7. Arizona has been trending to the dems
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 04:05 PM
Oct 2017

for awhile now. I think that Ward will win the R nomination and lose the general to an actual moderate Dem. Too soon to tell on McCain and we'll see what happens in Tennessee when we see the candidates.

I'm sure as hell not giving it up yet.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
9. I think the opposite.
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 04:17 PM
Oct 2017

And here is why:
We are seeing a lot of backlash against the Republicans, thanks to the wee lil fucker.
The Ala. race between Moore and a Dem. is TIED, in the latest polls. That is, for Alabama, stupendous.
Partly because of Moore as a looney candidate, but also because of a repug. backlash.


the absolute joy in our Ala. race is that Sessions has no place to return to...one does not usually hold a much lesser political office after a Cabinet post.
In Session's case, with any luck, he will be standing in the trial docket with Trump.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
11. Hope so
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 04:24 PM
Oct 2017

I just won't get my hopes up. I know well educated people in Mississippi that would not hesitate to vote for Moore over insert name Democrat. Same here in Iowa. I just can't understand it.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
13. Yes. There's a backlash against Republicans but ...
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 04:41 PM
Oct 2017

instead of supporting the opposition, Democrats, the way it should, it sends voters scurrying to find Republican candidates who are verifiably insane.

Why do voters, who want change because they hate the crazy dysfunction in government, decide the answer is to vote in even more dysfuntional mad men?

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
3. Make no mistake, Trump and his people are thrilled about this
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 03:37 PM
Oct 2017

It gives them a chance to get a real Trump-backer in there.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
8. So am I
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 04:05 PM
Oct 2017

it gives us a chance to kick the shit of a real trump backer in a State we should start to do much better in.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
15. Thats how to do it!
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 05:10 PM
Oct 2017

Right on, man!

With shifting demographics, AZ has been poised to go Blue for some time. This presents one hell of a good opportunity.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
4. He wouldn't get reelected, so he wants to free himself like Corker
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 03:37 PM
Oct 2017

and McCain to attempt to save the country, IMO.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
10. A prayer to the Goddess...
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 04:23 PM
Oct 2017

PLEASE let Tom Cotton go away too.
His Arkansas constituents are furious at him. He can either resign or be voted out in the time 2018 election.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
14. He's criticized Dotard a few times, but he quickly fell in
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 05:02 PM
Oct 2017

line when he saw the polls.
Can't the Repubs just say, I am Sparticus.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
17. Before that....
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 06:31 PM
Oct 2017

Remember earlier this summer when Reps. went home to hold their town halls and got an earful?
Most of it was having to do with Trump, and not passing any bills, etc.

Now they WILL be yelling about ACA, it is hitting them hard. But they would have yelled about the Repub. proposal even more.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
16. Arizona has 40% self identified conservatives
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 05:18 PM
Oct 2017

According to the 2016 presidential exit poll.

Democrats do not win statewide given that reality. Sorry, it is all about the math. That's why I have no respect for Rachel Maddow during election years. She is totally clueless regarding foundational aspects like that. She views each state as free flowing water in a fish tank. No chance. Rigid numbers dictate.

Arizona is not hopeless since liberals have risen to 27% in that state. It is the only state I have ever sampled that holds higher than the national average in both liberals and conservatives at a point in time.

Midterms feature a more conservative electorate than presidential years. Young women simply don't show up dependably. I'm not saying this race is not winnable but it is going to require a huge candidate vs. candidate edge along with Trump's approval rating remaining in the toilet.

Otherwise that 40% conservative number is simply too close to the required bar.

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