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ONLY Chuck Fucking Todd can spin today's events as a "win" for Trump (Original Post) CatWoman Oct 2017 OP
Toad is an asshole but the point he made was that Trumpists are OnDoutside Oct 2017 #1
someone earlier was calling it a win for steve bannon... spanone Oct 2017 #6
I heard someone say that Bannon will spin this as a win, and OnDoutside Oct 2017 #11
Trumpists would view Trump flinging his own poo at the camera as a win. n/t Yavin4 Oct 2017 #14
How could he possibly know that without asking them first? Towlie Oct 2017 #24
OMFG uponit7771 Oct 2017 #2
Viewing what? cilla4progress Oct 2017 #3
MTP Daily on MSNBC CatWoman Oct 2017 #18
My streaming has a few minutes delay. rickford66 Oct 2017 #4
He seems to have a lot of trouble with context. BannonsLiver Oct 2017 #5
Hey CatWoman: We need some details ''which events" you talking about? YOHABLO Oct 2017 #7
Flake announcing he won't run for reelection CatWoman Oct 2017 #19
It WAS a win for Trumpism lapfog_1 Oct 2017 #8
exactly RussBLib Oct 2017 #20
context please, thank you nt steve2470 Oct 2017 #9
Wrong. Hes just the guy spinning it this minute... JHB Oct 2017 #10
And here I thought it was going to be good news for John McCain gratuitous Oct 2017 #12
In my opinion, the best hours of MSNBC jrthin Oct 2017 #13
Chuckles may actually be correct here. LonePirate Oct 2017 #15
Don't know exactly what he said, but today could be viewed as Trump supporters draining the swamp. Hoyt Oct 2017 #16
In the short term it could be a "win" for the Bannonites, in the sense The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2017 #17
Perhaps... if the game is musical chairs or go-fish C_U_L8R Oct 2017 #21
Flakes stepping down will be a victory for Trump/Bannon UNLESS Vogon_Glory Oct 2017 #22
It actually kind of is RhodeIslandOne Oct 2017 #23
Got a link? left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #25
why not trying this novel idea CatWoman Oct 2017 #28
Why didn't you put it in your original post? left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #29
you're full of ideas, aren't you? CatWoman Oct 2017 #31
You don't think it is? doc03 Oct 2017 #26
Thank you CatWoman for watching that ahole, so I don't have to. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #27
He sadly correct Mz Pip Oct 2017 #30

CatWoman

(79,302 posts)
19. Flake announcing he won't run for reelection
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 05:39 PM
Oct 2017

and his speech before the Senate today.

As well as Corker talking about what a lying POS Trump is.

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
8. It WAS a win for Trumpism
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 05:09 PM
Oct 2017

the message is... if you are a republican in the Senate or the House, you will be primaried if you do not completely support Trump. And if you are in a "red" state, that means that a complete nut job will run against you in the Republican Primary and likely beat you.

Flake knew that his time in the Senate was over, not because he opposed any of Trump's policies... but because he didn't like the way Trump operates (lie lie lie and insult people0.

RussBLib

(9,020 posts)
20. exactly
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 05:47 PM
Oct 2017

Trump's main opposition (in the GOP Senate) is stepping aside

Hopefully Flake and Corker can gum up the works enough to keep them from fucking everything up

JHB

(37,161 posts)
10. Wrong. Hes just the guy spinning it this minute...
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 05:10 PM
Oct 2017

If Chucky were the only one capable of this level of spin, Hillary would be president.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
12. And here I thought it was going to be good news for John McCain
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 05:14 PM
Oct 2017

Context: Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ) has announced that he can't take it anymore, and he's not running for re-election in 2018. Also, he's terribly shocked - shocked! - that the political discourse in our country has become so coarse, as if he had just gotten up from a 40-year nap. He also had some less than complimentary things to say about the president.

Apparently, Chuck Todd has determined this constitutes a "win" for Trump, or something that his partisans will call a "win." Of course, Trump and his hallucinating hordes call everything a win, no matter what. But Todd can't bring himself to inject reality into the picture, so he must say that Flake's retirement is a "win" for Trump, even if it looks like a staggering loss.

LonePirate

(13,426 posts)
15. Chuckles may actually be correct here.
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 05:19 PM
Oct 2017

If a Republican wins Flake’s seat - a big if but certainly possible - that Republican will likely be more loyal to 45 than Flake.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
16. Don't know exactly what he said, but today could be viewed as Trump supporters draining the swamp.
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 05:20 PM
Oct 2017

Both Corker and Flake were -- as I understand it -- headed to a very tough primary.

I appreciate what they have said about Trump, and hopefully it will do some good. But, unfortunately, it can be viewed as positive for Trump and ignorant white wingers.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
17. In the short term it could be a "win" for the Bannonites, in the sense
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 05:29 PM
Oct 2017

that GOP senators who oppose the way Trump behaves as president (although not necessarily his policies) are leaving and could be replaced with even worse people in 2018. In the long run it could be a big loss for them IF more GOPers find their spines and stop caving in for fear of primaries and tweeting.

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
21. Perhaps... if the game is musical chairs or go-fish
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 05:47 PM
Oct 2017

But if he's talking about steady, trusted governance of our country... Trump's a major flop. The worst. Ever.

Vogon_Glory

(9,118 posts)
22. Flakes stepping down will be a victory for Trump/Bannon UNLESS
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 05:58 PM
Oct 2017

The electorates of their states get off their backsides and vote against the Republican candidate in the general election.

I dearly hope that the rest of the electorate has a rise of conscience and consciousness in Tennessee, Arizona, Texas, and other states.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
23. It actually kind of is
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 06:00 PM
Oct 2017

He ran someone he doesn't like from the Senate. The question is ARE WE going to end up benefiting from it?

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
29. Why didn't you put it in your original post?
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 07:05 PM
Oct 2017

That would be the better idea,
rather than expecting others to go hunt it down.


Oh well ............

Adding you to 'ignore'.

Mz Pip

(27,451 posts)
30. He sadly correct
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 07:22 PM
Oct 2017

What will change? Flake and Corker will be replaced by Bannon approved Trump sycophants.

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