https://books.google.com/books/about/Oswald_and_the_CIA.html?id=0RsXCbfld04C&printsec=frontcover&source=kp_read_button

Take the time to read at least some of this

He doesn’t make any wild accusations, just presents documents showing all the ignored/ suppressed evidenced

I'll give it a look after I finish going through a few more documents.

Found this one a few minutes ago:

Link to tweet

Contemporaneous notes of a taped conversation between lbj and Hoover, along with the scrubbed 14 minute tape of them discussing the Oswald Mexico double problem are documented

All sorts of stuff on the second Oswald, including his outrageous behavior at a shooting range and car dealer, clearly designed to set him up, is easily accessible

Here’s the picture c
The cia took of Oswald in Mexico City!

They’ve never been able to explain it away.

its supposedly one of the topics LBJ and Hoover realized had to be dealt with



Looks just like him, yes?

I knew they were hiding something!

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http://jfkfacts.org/top-6-jfk-files-the-cia-still-keeps-secret/

Wonder why......

Morley wrote a synopsis of all this, in advance of the current bs dump

https://www.amazon.com/CIA-JFK-Secret-Assassination-Files-ebook/dp/B01FIGY89Y

Today they released docs showing questions to R Helms as to whether LHO worked for the CIA

The doc STOPPED right at the answer point, which was the entire raison d’etre for Newman ‘s book

Funny stuff!

Helms pled to perjury charges; need to know anything more about him?

Then there’s this bit, featuring cites to actual docs, not ravings from propagandists like Posner, Bugliosi, McAdams, etal

Read the docs

Decide for yourself

https://whowhatwhy.org/2015/12/23/why-cias-richard-helms-lied-about-oswald-part-1/

Waiting to see what Newman has to say about the Helms redacted material

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.alternet.org/media/new-files-confirm-jfk-investigation-wasnt-botched-it-was-controlled-top-cia-officials%3famp

...after 54 years, the truth of the assassination will probably never be known. I know more about it than most people--I read the Warren Report and the 26 volumes of evidence; I attended the public hearings of the HSCA, and came to know some of their investigators; I've even interviewed witnesses, especially Dr Robert Shaw, Connally's surgeon, who made it very abundantly clear indeed that the single-bullet theory was impossible. All I know for sure is that the Lone Gunman theory is untenable. I have very little notion of what did happen. There was no real investigation at the time. The original FBI investigation, and the Warren Commission, acted upon the assumption of Oswald's guilt. The CIA, especially James Angleton, covered up their role in creating Oswald's "legend". Garrison's investigation was three years after the fact, the HSCA investigation thirteen years after the fact. Trails had gone cold by then. Meanwhile, every conceivable story about all the principals have been floated, including this one. I find the notion of Tippit being involved in the assassination unlikely. But everything about this business is also unlikely, so who the hell knows?

Were you in Congress?

...which I still believe...

..for the Kennedys & the Democratic Party also (called them both "communists) I can see Tippit, being an serious JBSer, carrying out the murder.

JBS then, was like Trump's white Supremacists today.
They would murder for their political leader.
Quite a cultish behavior.

Who knows really, but JBS dirty hands would be completely believable, from all I know of the Koch Family's John Birch Society.
They have always been the funding behind 3rd party & fringe candidates set to burn down democracy.
JBS was Never to be trusted.

These last 10 to 20 years there have been multiple experiments using modern forensic technology showing there's no problem with the single bullet doing what it did.

The last JFK assassination CT I heard included the fatal shot being fired from a manhole in the street. Jeezus, it's never going to end.

Multiple experiments have shown nothing wrong with the angle.

Little guy popping out of a manhole. I've even seen a "picture."

And yes, other poster, I've read some books recommended to me by a diehard conspiracy theorist. The ones I read were good for one thing - playing find the fallacy. Shoddiest reasoning I had read to date (early '90's).

Well, if JBS was behind it, here is how I recall that volatile despicable organization:

Considering the John Birch Society, created by the Koch Bros Father back then, was prominent & hated Democracy & Democrats & especially the Kennedys, this is believable.

The JBS went silent for a time but the brothers, in honor of their fathers JBS legacy, eventually emerged to fund both the Libertarian & Tea Party.

The JBS was & still is on a mission to upend democracy. The JBS referred to democracy as communist.
JBS behavior back then, as I recall my parents almost fear of them, was much like the Supremacists today.
My parents were serious Democrats & we had a neighbor who was JBS. He became red faced & violent when discussing Democrats.
I was about 10 yrs old I think.
JBSers visciously Hated the Democrats the same way we saw Hillary Clinton hated in 2016.

I often wondered who was being funded by the Koch Bros in 2016, because the hate directed at one Democratic candidate was so violent & shocking & similar.

If The John Birch Society, started by & carried on by the Koch family today, had a role in President Kennedy's death, my answer would be, "Of Course they did."
Their political hatred ran through their DNA.

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That's also in the newly released documents.

But even they thought the Birchers were nuts.

I don't think Tippit was head of the JBS in Dallas. I don't think he had the time or energy.

At the time of his death, Tippit was assigned to Dallas Police vehicle #10, had badge #848 and was earning a salary of $490 a month (worth $3,833 in 2015) as a Dallas police officer.[11] He was also working two part-time jobs; he worked at Austin's Barbecue restaurant on Friday and Saturday nights and at the Stevens Park Theatre on Sundays.[12]

He also had three kids.

The BBQ restaurant that he worked at was owned by a member of the JBS. In 1964, the owner stated that Tippit was not interested in politics.

Probably some rich guy was the head of the Dallas JBS.

I read that Jack Ruby was a member of the JBS. Then I read that Jack Ruby was blaming the JBS. And here are Jack Ruby's own words:

T]here is a certain organization in this area that has been indoctrinated that I am the one that was in the plot to assassinate our President. . . . The John Birch Society.(19)

Ruby was correct; the John Birch Society was indeed spreading propaganda implicating Ruby as part of a Jewish conspiracy. In fact, Ruby correctly named resigned US Army Major General Edwin Walker as one of the society's leaders in Dallas,(20) and it is quite telling that when Walker appeared before the Warren Commission, he insisted upon referring to Ruby by his birth name, Rubenstein.(21)


I think Dallas was teaming with JBS, but I don't think Tippit was the head of it.

enough to pull off this level of crime.
But it doesn't surprise me now as an adult, knowing what I do about the Koch family.


But I guess I also never thought in America, we would see the violent rise of the KKK either.
Just Sucks .

I was 7 when Kennedy was shot.

We learned about the KKK while I was in school, but not the JBS.

I guess they were too sanitized.

When I moved to Texas in the 1980's, I believe they were here, but rebranded themselves as, "The Homeowner's Taxpayers Association". They were very anti-Fluoride. Very anti-city government etc. They are still at city council meetings, complaining about how Smart Meters are a form of tyranny.

until they finally honed their message & invested their personal fortune thus giving rise to the Libertarian & now the Tea Party.

Everything with their message was anti govt, anti social programs, anti democracy.

During the campaign 2016 I noticed ads that were so similar to the JBS creed & just googled the history of the group.

Its a well funded (Koch billions) party with somewhat secretive underground movements, probably since the JBS to this day holds an elementvof fear for many who recall or study them.

If there's a 3rd party suddenly getting funds to promote themselves, its a good idea to check for Koch funding like the TEA PARTY, which seemed to appear out of nowhere.
They are dirty players as we have watched how the Tea Party has become the once Republican Party.

This is what they intended to do with the Democratic Party also.
They are a sly dog dangerous goup who's intent is to upend American democracy. I think they were kind of run outta town back in the day, however.

JBS Hated Democracy, & the Kochs will continue to fund their father's dream of the John Birch Society till the day they die. Guess cuz they have billions of dollars & nothing else to do with their days but cause chaos.
I think its all just a damn game to those old rich guys.

He worked as a security guard at a BBQ joint owned by someone who was a member of the JBS.

The FBI interviewed Austin Cook on May 15, 1964. Cook said that he had employed J.D. Tippit at his drive-in, austin's Barbecue, at 2321 West Illinois in Dallas, for about 3 years at the time of the assassination.(107) Tippit worked on Friday and Saturday nights from 10 p.m. to 2 a.m. at the barbecue as a "deterrent" to any teenage trouble from youths who frequented the establishment.(108) Cook told the FBI that he was a member of the John Birch Society, but that he had never discussed politics with Tippit and did not believe Tippit was interested in politics.(109)

Jack Ruby was apparently a member of the JBS.

Or at the theater part time? Or were those covers to explain the extra income from bribes?

The fake job thing is still pretty popular with organized crime, and I know for an absolute fact that the Dallas PD back then was frighteningly, staggeringly corrupt.

he was there to pick up LHO, who had by then realized he, LHO, was THE patsy, as he declared later in the police station. It would also explain why LHO fled into the theatre and then, being arrested, said loudly to the audience, "I'm not armed!"

Was JD Tippit on the scene TO KILL LHO, a task later obviously assigned to Jack Ruby?

There exists zero evidence that LHO shot and killed Tippit. An excellent explanation of the ballistics:

http://22november1963.org.uk/jim-garrison-officer-j-d-tippit

He was in a radio car and was dispatched to Oak Cliff. He wasn't there for "no discernible reason".

And yes, there is evidence that Oswald killed Tippit. He identified by multiple eyewitnesses. He dumped the spent cartridges on the ground (he was seen doing so when reloading), where they were recovered by police; the firing pin marks on the primers matched the S&W .38 Oswald owned, for which there were purchase records.

Their testimony there is as good as it would've been in court. (Arguing otherwise will make it pretty clear that you don't think a trial would've meant anything, either.)

I've seen that theme multiple times in the thread. The memo isn't particularly well written but it is trying to indicate that Tippit and another man -- possibly Oswald -- had a meeting with a third party who was the head of the John Birch Society in Dallas. That meeting supposedly was at Jack Ruby's night club.

It is all typical conspiratorial absurdity and I have no idea why I'm correcting matters, other than nobody else in the thread caught it and it was driving me nuts.

...and that is that someone other than your elected officials(government) determines what you will see and hear. That, right there, is some scary shit...

Stop freaking out over who is POTUS. That's not the centre of power .

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