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Sadly - the most effective "treatment" I've seen is about 4 years in the State Prison...
Quoting a friend of mine - who went down hard on smack in the early 90s..."That will fix you right up!" He has gone on to get married, have a child, work full time and is back to enjoying a real life.
My stepson did 18 months in state - came out clean - but relapsed.
He had been to rehab before - but was freaked out because people were selling drugs in the rehab - I had actually doubted this until some recent news in PA...counselors overdosed and then another rehab was busted for dealing.
And - just to counter a suggestion Trump made - they ALREADY have rehab stuff in State Prison in PA. He had done a few of them during his stay.
Once you get out - Parole and Probation in PA are a joke - they don't even piss test...or even bother checking these guys.
I'm encouraged that PA has legalized medical Marijuana...and hope my stepson can get a script to help cope with lingering temptation.
I just took him to jail on Wednesday...60 days for probation violation - driving on suspended License.
We hope he comes out clean - with a renewed commitment.
So - what works?
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,460 posts)single-payer healthcare, guaranteed paid sick time for all employees, a national basic income, etc.
In the meantime, fix rooms, heroin clinics, clean needle programs. I don't give a shit if people get free clean heroin if it eventually gets them off heroin altogether.
hexola
(4,835 posts)I think that's what Trump really fails to grasp - and he proved it with his story about his brother...that's very nice - but that's not what this is about.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,460 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)is will power.
I know thats terrible that I would say that but you asked for truth and that is the truth.
I quit drinking after 30 years
I quit smoking cigs after 30 years
I quit smoking pot after 40 plus years
I did all of them by way of wanting too, will power
I have a step son with a big ass monkey on his back and he's fighting it tooth and nail and getting no where because he really doesn't want too quit just yet.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,460 posts)hexola
(4,835 posts)"If you try it once - and you actually want to do it again...you're fucked"
But this was old path, before the prescription path really opened up - in the early 90s - the really pure smack started flowing out of NYC - once a dirty drug that you had to inject or smoke - now a match head sized bump will give you a hell of a buzz.
hexola
(4,835 posts)But - yeah - they have to be sick and tired of being sick and tired.
madokie
(51,076 posts)With cigs and alcohol I kept some with me for a while so I could have a drink or smoke if I really felt I needed it. Having that crutch I think helped me to tell myself no I'll wait until the next urge. After a few days I was going hours between urges and that told me I could do it. 30 years on the cigs now and 10 years on the alcohol. Pot has been about 8 years. Pot was easy to quit as even after 45 years of pretty much daily smoking I never had an urge when I decided I was going to quit. A couple years later I took a couple hits and I got so paranoid and anxious that I couldn't stand it. No way will I try that again.
I don't mind being around someone smoking cigarettes or pot but I don't like being around someone drinking. It doesn't make me want a drink, I just don't like the way a person drinking acts
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)irisblue
(33,036 posts)90 meetings in 90 days is often quoted. You do spend time with people who have run the same games, so they will call you out on the games addicts play. When you are doing 90/90, you're not spending as much time with other actively using people, but you are spending time with non using people, during the meeting and the 'after meeting' ; you're creating a new friendship circle.
Freddie
(9,275 posts)My son is a recovering heroin addict. Failed at rehab twice. Failed a number of suboxone programs. 3rd time at inpatient rehab he asked if he could continue his treatment at an approved rehab in FL (we're also in PA). He knew if he came home to the room he used in and the town where all his drug buddies and dealers lived, he'd be right back to using. He was still 25 and on my insurance so he did. I know there's been a lot in the news about shady rehabs in S FL but he got to a good one (approved by the rehab he was in here) and so far, 1 3/4 years later, he's still good. Active in NA and a sponsor now. Has a good job at a very reputable rehab as a discharge coordinator.
I know he could relapse tomorrow. It's always one day at a time. But I think the change of scenery helped more than anything else. This is by far the longest he's been clean since the whole nightmare started in 2010.