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Pfeiffer: Constitutional crisis won't be when Trump fires Mueller, but when Ryan/McConnell let him (Original Post) highplainsdem Oct 2017 OP
Dems need to react strongly if this happens CanonRay Oct 2017 #1
we have zero power. Voltaire2 Oct 2017 #2
Oh, we have power, all right... First Speaker Oct 2017 #3
Nope. We have no power in the federal government. Voltaire2 Oct 2017 #7
we will not gain power DonCoquixote Oct 2017 #15
power to what? fallout87 Oct 2017 #8
No. We will have to. Tom Rinaldo Oct 2017 #6
National strike nt G_j Oct 2017 #12
Public walkout did not work so well for the Germans. Nt lostnfound Oct 2017 #13
Yep. kentuck Oct 2017 #4
AMEN!!! MyOwnPeace Oct 2017 #5
That protesting stuff is way over-rated, Back in the 60s police depts didnt look like the military.. Old Vet Oct 2017 #9
I don't believe Trump can actually fire Mueller, Rosenstein has to do it. Jim__ Oct 2017 #10
Drumph must be arrested for treason. BSdetect Oct 2017 #11
Before Nixon resigned, congressmen went to the WH and had a frank discussion with him. Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #14
This is when we will need the Democratic leadership to step forward with ideas. jalan48 Oct 2017 #16
People will finally take to the streets.... lindysalsagal Oct 2017 #17

CanonRay

(14,103 posts)
1. Dems need to react strongly if this happens
Sun Oct 29, 2017, 11:05 AM
Oct 2017

Public walk out of the House and Senate? The country needs to shut down.

Voltaire2

(13,039 posts)
7. Nope. We have no power in the federal government.
Sun Oct 29, 2017, 11:18 AM
Oct 2017

We do not control either chamber of the legislature, the executive branch or the court. This is not 1974.

Nor is there a "movement" to organize mass protest as there was back then. In fact, there is little in the way of actual physical community anymore within which such a movement could organize. We can spew venom on twitter, but we aren't, for example, about to conduct an effective general strike or even a sustained series of mass protests.

The best we can do is manage to wrest control of the legislature in 2018, but even then I rather doubt our leaders would do anything to remove the monster from the white house.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
15. we will not gain power
Sun Oct 29, 2017, 03:25 PM
Oct 2017

unless we do the huffing and puffing, for i we slink off, we will allow fox to spin it as a victory. We are right now the people who need to get in shape, and that is with exercise.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
6. No. We will have to.
Sun Oct 29, 2017, 11:13 AM
Oct 2017

We must fill the streets from coast to coast. It will be our "Anti Orange Revolution". That will give Democrats some leverage to work with.

Old Vet

(2,001 posts)
9. That protesting stuff is way over-rated, Back in the 60s police depts didnt look like the military..
Sun Oct 29, 2017, 11:28 AM
Oct 2017

Nowadays large protests are met with OVER powering police presence. Its just a different generation, There working 2-3 jobs just to pay the rent. Taking to the street and getting arrested is not a badge of honor anymore.

Jim__

(14,076 posts)
10. I don't believe Trump can actually fire Mueller, Rosenstein has to do it.
Sun Oct 29, 2017, 11:28 AM
Oct 2017

Rosenstein may quit rather than do that. Of course, then Trump can probably get a flunky to do it. Rosenstein quitting makes it an even bigger deal; but the republican congress will still not impeach Trump; but Trump's presidency clearly becomes invalid at that point.

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
11. Drumph must be arrested for treason.
Sun Oct 29, 2017, 11:37 AM
Oct 2017

Even the GOP might give him up rather than face chaos.

Mueller is being threatened just by the talk of being fired.

When you let Presidents appoint judges and fire law enforcers its a very risky disaster waiting to happen.

Irish_Dem

(47,095 posts)
14. Before Nixon resigned, congressmen went to the WH and had a frank discussion with him.
Sun Oct 29, 2017, 01:26 PM
Oct 2017

Telling him that he no longer had congressional support.

Goldwater and others told him it was over. A deal of was cut. Nixon resigns, Ford will pardon him.

Trump will have to be offered a similar deal.

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