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highplainsdem

(48,987 posts)
Sun Oct 29, 2017, 12:13 PM Oct 2017

Slate: Robert Mueller Has the Authority to Name Donald Trump an Unindicted Co-Conspirator

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/10/robert_mueller_has_the_authority_to_name_donald_trump_an_unindicted_co_conspirator.html

Imagine if special counsel Robert Mueller finds sufficient evidence to charge President Donald Trump, but his hands are tied because he or the Department of Justice concludes that they cannot indict a sitting president? Could Mueller instead identify President Trump by name as an “unindicted co-conspirator” when bringing charges against other individuals? The stakes are enormously high. Such action would have some of the same reverberations across the country as a criminal indictment of the president.

A facile answer would rely simply on the fact that the special prosecutor in Watergate did just that. The Watergate grand jury named President Richard M. Nixon as an unindicted co-conspirator when it issued indictments of others.

Since Watergate, however, the Department of Justice has developed guidance for criminal prosecutions that places a presumption against naming individuals as unindicted co-conspirators. The U.S. Attorneys’ Office Manual states:

In the absence of some significant justification, federal prosecutors generally should not identify unindicted co-conspirators in conspiracy indictments. The practice of naming individuals as unindicted co-conspirators in an indictment charging a criminal conspiracy has been severely criticized in United States v. Briggs, 514 F.2d 794 (5th Cir. 1975).


The rationale behind this rule is that it is generally unfair for the government to tag people with the marker of criminality without giving them an opportunity to defend themselves in court.

That said, the prohibition expressed in the U.S. attorneys’ manual is not categorical. The manual says it applies “in the absence of some significant justification” and that federal prosecutors “generally” should not identify unindicted conspirators in the indictment. And later the manual says, “Ordinarily, there is no need to name a person as an unindicted co-conspirator in an indictment.”

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If there were ever a need to make an exception to the presumption against identifying an unindicted co-conspirator, Mueller’s investigation could be it. Simply put, a case in which two conditions exist—a person is immune from prosecution but there’s a strong public interest in knowing about their actions—can provide ample justification.

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Slate: Robert Mueller Has the Authority to Name Donald Trump an Unindicted Co-Conspirator (Original Post) highplainsdem Oct 2017 OP
That would really light up the Night. Wellstone ruled Oct 2017 #1
If they intend to remove Trump from the White House, they better bring extra small handcuffs mnhtnbb Oct 2017 #2
. Takket Oct 2017 #3
I think he would indict Trump and let the courts figure it out marylandblue Oct 2017 #4
As this plays out, I think Trump would be dangerous. nt Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #6
You may be right, but sometimes Trump seems so weak to me marylandblue Oct 2017 #7
Good point. I think he may vacillate between helplessness and acting out. Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #8
Also, since when has Drumpf or GOP followed the law? judesedit Oct 2017 #5
Even if the evidence supports it, would he have to be indicted right now? Buns_of_Fire Oct 2017 #9

mnhtnbb

(31,389 posts)
2. If they intend to remove Trump from the White House, they better bring extra small handcuffs
Sun Oct 29, 2017, 12:36 PM
Oct 2017

so he can't slip them while in custody.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
4. I think he would indict Trump and let the courts figure it out
Sun Oct 29, 2017, 12:39 PM
Oct 2017

Why go for half measures? In Nixon's case, it was clear he was going to be impeached anyway. In Trump's case, he can't be sure of that, but at least if Trump is indicted, the full case can be laid out to the public.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
7. You may be right, but sometimes Trump seems so weak to me
Sun Oct 29, 2017, 02:14 PM
Oct 2017

When it's time to actually do something, he seems to be really indecisive and confused. Today is a case in point. He tweeted "DO SOMETHING!" instead of actually, you know, doing something because he's the damn president, not a damsel in distress.

Irish_Dem

(47,107 posts)
8. Good point. I think he may vacillate between helplessness and acting out.
Sun Oct 29, 2017, 02:16 PM
Oct 2017

People who are sociopathic narcissists can get dangerous when cornered.

judesedit

(4,438 posts)
5. Also, since when has Drumpf or GOP followed the law?
Sun Oct 29, 2017, 12:46 PM
Oct 2017

Don't make me laugh. They've been accusing Hillary and Obama for years of things they have not one iota of proof of

Buns_of_Fire

(17,180 posts)
9. Even if the evidence supports it, would he have to be indicted right now?
Sun Oct 29, 2017, 03:09 PM
Oct 2017

I like the idea of Orange Rump taking that final walk to Marine 1 on his last day in office and having a federal marshal slap the papers in his hand and say, "In recognition of all you've done while in office, here's a going-away present from the American People."

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