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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt's important to know if a mass killing is terror or JUST "gun violence"
It's important to know if a mass killing is terror or just "gun violence"
so we can know if we should do everything to prevent it or nothing
Link to tweet
hlthe2b
(102,360 posts)AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)What relevance does this have today kpete?
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)when you started using White Wingers....shall we revisit that?
I'm willing....You?
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9757313
Shall we ban paint and b-b guns as well as pick up trucks now?
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)you arrive to obsfuscate on behalf of precious guns.
AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)A tweet from 29 days ago makes NO good point....
And you can't seem to be honest with regards to your posting history...as shown above.
But..... you are a fun dude Hoyt...sadly for you, you appear to not be aware of how the internet works...your posts last....but fun for me.
Please continue
maxsolomon
(33,400 posts)Try harder.
Both are Terrorism. One requires us to question ourselves, the other allows us to blame others. Neither has a simple solution.
AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)but you lose the argument at..."..the other allows us to blame others"...what others?
A freak with a rented PU that mows down 8 and yells Allah Akbar is comparable how?
maxsolomon
(33,400 posts)One would think that after 16 years of war with Sunni Islam you'd have learned it.
Others = every Muslim on Earth.
AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)Who did this today?
maxsolomon
(33,400 posts)We know his name, we know where he's from, and we can reasonable speculate his religion, motive, and inspiration. That's not in contention.
Go count the bodies in Las Vegas again. That terror has no readily discernible cause but our insistence that private arsenals are essential to our Liberty, but there's nothing to be done, no one to hold responsible. That's just the cost of Freedom.
That's the point of the OP but you refuse to consider it. Or you're not capable.
AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)It had nothing to do with a tweet from 29 days ago....and not at all comparable.
I never refuse to "consider" anything....I just refuse to fall for bulls***.
"Go count the bodies in Las Vegas again" Why?
We know what that scumbag did.
Vegas has nothing to do with what this freak did today...with a PU truck and fake guns.
mythology
(9,527 posts)Are they less dead? Will the next victims of a mass shooting or even just the every day run of the mill gun violence that has become our reality be any less dead? Unfortunately a small, but vocal segment of our society has said that we can do absolutely nothing that might limit the capacity of people with guns to kill people. That same segment also highly overlaps with the people who think Muslims are inherently bad and are happy to ban them from the country. The difference being religion and skin color. In 2013, over 11,000 Americans died from gun violence excluding suicide, accidental deaths and undetermined. We lose our minds over 3,000 people dying on 9/11, but ignore over three times that number dying every year due to idiots and their guns.
Sure getting rid of guns wouldn't have stopped this guy, but it's incredibly silly to pretend that the far more limited form of violence gets a lot more attention than the far more common form.
maxsolomon
(33,400 posts)Islamic Terror, White Man with Guns Terror. Las Vegas was Terrorism. It's All Terror.
madamesilverspurs
(15,806 posts)If the perp is white, gun violence is the "price of freedom."
If the perp is Black or brown or Muslim, THEN it's terrorism.
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AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)Mayor de Blasio saying..... "Let me be clear based on this information we have at this moment: this was an act of terror...."
HipChick
(25,485 posts)the perp..
AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)Has what to do with skin pigment?
HipChick
(25,485 posts)This sound so...