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world wide wally

(21,744 posts)
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 12:43 PM Nov 2017

I have to say my heart went out to the poor farm girl who had to pay the Estate Tax.

I wanted to hear more of the details of her sob story. Unlike most people, she had to pay taxes simply because her Father died and the rest of us are taxed on our money? So unfair!
Like how much was the Father worth?
How much did she owe in taxes?
How much of a loan did she have to take out?
What was her interest rate on the loan?
What were her monthly payments?
How did she pay it off in just ten years?
And maybe most importantly, why should she have to pay off a mortgage like the rest of us?

Remember, the Estate Tax doesn't even apply to the first 5.5 Million Dollars inherited for each person.
There is so much more to learn from her about the heartbreak of the Estate Tax!

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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. Most of us would be glad to pay today's estate tax rates to inherit (or earn) a fortune.
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 12:47 PM
Nov 2017

I used to tell tax hating GOPers that I hope to pay $10 million in income taxes next year. They were too stupid to get that would mean I made about $30 million.

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
6. nope... no way you would have made $30M
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 12:55 PM
Nov 2017

Try $50M to $60M

After the first million or so you could hire a smart tax lawyer and then the rest of your income would not be regular income, but you would have maybe a dozen LLCs each with specific pass through purpose. And you would be paying long term cap gains on those LLCs in a year or so (they would be making the rest of your $60M).

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
8. Maybe, but I can't stand those type advisers. I might just take my net $20M to avoid them, or do
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 01:24 PM
Nov 2017

it myself from a google search. But you do have a point about the way it works.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
3. Seeing as the Estate Tax doesn't apply except for single
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 12:47 PM
Nov 2017

estates in excess of $5 million ($10 million for joint estates) and even then only for the amount EXCEEDING the $5 million dollars I don't feel terribly moved by her predicament.

 

WinstonSmith00

(228 posts)
5. Tax avoiders are freeloaders
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 12:52 PM
Nov 2017

If you are getting taxed on over $5.5 million I dont feel sorry for you.

Inherited wealth leads to aristocracy.

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
7. I concede that it's possible to get a $6 million inheritance with no liquid elements.
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 01:09 PM
Nov 2017

And paying taxes on that can get a little exciting, especially if you've got to figure out how to fund operating or maintenance costs. But it's still a $6 million inheritance. Any halfway competent banker can help you through it.

 

Abouttime

(675 posts)
9. In a fair world the farm would be returned to the people
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 01:36 PM
Nov 2017

Just think of how many thousands, probably millions of people we could lift out of poverty if we, as a country would practice sensible and fair land reform.
It's absurd for one person or one family to inherit a $5 million dollar farm, it leaves the majority of citizens as serfs.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
10. "the first 5.5 Million Dollars inherited for each person."
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 01:44 PM
Nov 2017

Are you sure about that? Maybe I'm reading that wrong... (from each person instead of for each person?)

It's the Estate that pays the taxes, not the heir. As I understand it (which is casual, as neither of my parents having anything approaching $1 million, much less $5 million), the tax applies to the portion above the limit, the heirs split what is left. So, for a couple dying this year with an $11 million estate, federal estate taxes would apply to just the $20,000 above the $5.49 million limit per decedent. Doesn't matter how many heirs there are.

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