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(52,253 posts)
1. Please! We'd have our hands full defending hillary
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 01:47 PM
Nov 2017

Every single congressional committee would fabricate an excuse to investigate her, plus we'd be trying to govern.

Donnie's crimes? Hah! Any hint at investigating Donnie would just be used as another article of impeachment.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
2. Remember when newly elected President Obama stated that we must look ahead,
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 01:48 PM
Nov 2017

as he essentially ruled out any investigation of Bush and Cheney lying the country into 2 wars?

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
3. So we would just let it go,
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 01:49 PM
Nov 2017

even though crimes were committed.

Why? Wouldn't that send a very bad message to Russia?

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
4. What message was sent when Obama refused to investigae Bush and Cheney?
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 01:51 PM
Nov 2017

The message that the GOP received was that the Democrats would do nothing, just as Gore did nothing when the SCOTUS selected Bush to be President.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
9. Colluding with a foreign government is different. Unless the Russians are stopped now
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 02:31 PM
Nov 2017

they will continue in all future elections.

I think Hillary would have realized this.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
10. We can speculate.
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 02:34 PM
Nov 2017

Part of my point, expressed a few times in other posts, is that the leaders of the GOP obviously does not consider that rules apply to their brand of politics and tactics. They will do anything and excuse anything if it leads to them exercising power.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
11. I don't think we can directly project Obama's style of governance onto anyone
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 02:43 PM
Nov 2017

I don't think we can directly project Obama's style of governance onto anyone other than Obama.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,005 posts)
5. Yes, we would be investigating him. It would still be a crime. Intel Community knew beforehand.
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 02:13 PM
Nov 2017

Truth comes out. The tRump gang's conspiracy is so big and so amateurish that it would definitely expose itself and get investigated.

The only professionals on their side were the Russians.

Make7

(8,543 posts)
7. I don't think a Clinton Administration would investigate and charge Trump..
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 02:28 PM
Nov 2017

... or his campaign officials.

If Trump weren't president right now, no one would care about him at all.

However, there would be a serious intelligence community investigation into Putin and Russian activities - to mitigate future threats and also determine suitable countermeasures/sanctions. No doubt Trump campaign activities would be looked at during those investigations, but not with the intent to bring charges.

Putin is the adversary.

The precedent and optics of investigating and indicting a political opponent that lost are less than ideal. Trump is a loser and would be pretty much irrelevant - I'm not sure there would be much of an upside in trying to prosecute him or his team at that point.

The problem with Trump in the White House now is that the investigation and action needed on Russia may not be given the attention and resources it requires.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
8. We would have been investigating it anyway. it was a an attack on our elections.
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 02:30 PM
Nov 2017

This must be fixed.

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