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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo Hillary and Bernie both signed fundraising agreements with the DNC.
And Hillary really came through.
Oh, yeah, that's terrible.
LisaM
(27,813 posts)Therefore, it's time to try and knock her down a couple of pegs. How dare she try to show that she's engaging, witty, and likeable? This narrative must be stopped!
And yes,
comradebillyboy
(10,154 posts)mcar
(42,334 posts)Proof!!!111
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)as competitive as the RNC. What was she thinking??
Excerpts from her interview at the ReCode 2017 conference:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2017/05/31/read-full-transcript-hillary-clinton-recode-interview/0niING5P2tfNBCnR1lSq9H/story.html
"I mean it was bankrupt, it was on the verge of insolvency, its data was mediocre to poor, nonexistent, wrong. I had to inject money into it...
Mossberg: This is the DNC youre talking about.
The DNC to keep it going. Okay. Donald Trump who did nothing about really setting up any kind of data operation, inherits an RNC data foundation that after the Republicans lost in 2012, and they thought they had a very good operation with the setup that Romney did called ORCA, they thought that was really state of the art, they lose.
So they raised - best estimates are close to a hundred million dollars, they brought in their main vendors, they basically said, We will never be behind the Democrats again, and they invested between 2012 and 2016 this hundred million dollars to build this data foundation. They beta tested it. They ran it... somebody was able to determine about 227,000 surveys to double check, triple check, quadruple check, the information. So Trump becomes the nominee and he is basically handed this tried and trued, effective foundation. Then youve got Cambridge Analytica and you know, you can believe the hype on how great they were or the hype on how they werent, but the fact is, they added something. And I think again, we better understand that, the Mercers did not invest all that money just for their own amusement. We know they played in Brexit, and we know that they came to Jared Kushner and basically said, We will marry our operation, which was more as its been described, psychographic, sentiment, a lot of harvesting of Facebook information, We will marry that with the RNC."
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)The agreementsigned by Amy Dacey, the former CEO of the DNC, and Robby Mook with a copy to Marc Eliasspecified that in exchange for raising money and investing in the DNC, Hillary would control the partys finances, strategy, and all the money raised. Her campaign had the right of refusal of who would be the party communications director, and it would make final decisions on all the other staff. The DNC also was required to consult with the campaign about all other staffing, budgeting, data, analytics, and mailings.
Frankly, I think the Politico piece is poorly titled and the article says far more about DWS than Clinton. Clinton wasnt expected to be unbiased, after all, and she DID pay off other peoples massive accumulated debts. DWS, however, was supposed to be more fair. Barring that, she was apparently a terrible organizational leader, leaving the DNC in massive debt through shady hiring
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Despite all the defensiveness from people who are loyal to Hillary Clinton, the real scandal here isn't that the Clinton campaign entered into the agreement. It's that the DNC entered into the agreement.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)after she won the nomination, that included the clauses you mention here.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029787909
jillan
(39,451 posts)it really wasn't a Hillary bashing piece.
What Donna did, imho, is expose problems in the DNC left over from DWS.
Face it, the DNC is in trouble. They were left 2 million in debt after the election and are having a hard time raising money now.
There is a lot of infighting still going on. Their numbers are lower, people have left the party. There is a lot of rebuilding to do. And Tom Perez needs to get busy with the repairs.
Sometimes you need to pull away the facade to fix the structure. And that's how I'm reading what was released today.
About that agreement, it's insane to think Bernie was offered the same agreement about moving money from the DNC to the Hillary for America fund WHILE the primaries were just getting started. That agreement with Mook was signed in 10/2015. There is no way Bernie was going to sign that or that Mook would've even offered it to him. Iowa hadn't even had it's caucuses yet.
Voltaire2
(13,061 posts)Fuck 2018, we got some grudges that need to be nursed.
Recipe for defeat.
msongs
(67,420 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)Some people need their heads examined.