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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNYTimes: Its Not Too Soon to Debate Gun Control
Orlando, Dallas, Las Vegas, and now Sutherland Springs. Each location has only recently experienced an unthinkable tragedy at the hands of a mass murderer and his guns. The latest, in the small Texas town, involved a man reportedly using a rifle to kill at least 26 people while they worshipped. Beyond these tragedies, which understandably seize the publics attention, are dozens more in cities around America nearly one per day.
Still, Republicans leaders in Congress do nothing. Or, really, so far theyve done the same thing they have always done: offered thoughts and prayers. Tomorrow, then, will surely bring warnings not to politicize a tragedy by debating gun controls that might prevent such mass killings from happening again.
We are not going to talk about that today, President Trump told reporters in the days that followed the Las Vegas shooting, where 58 people were killed.
I think its premature to be discussing legislative solutions if there are any, the Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, said.
Still, Republicans leaders in Congress do nothing. Or, really, so far theyve done the same thing they have always done: offered thoughts and prayers. Tomorrow, then, will surely bring warnings not to politicize a tragedy by debating gun controls that might prevent such mass killings from happening again.
We are not going to talk about that today, President Trump told reporters in the days that followed the Las Vegas shooting, where 58 people were killed.
I think its premature to be discussing legislative solutions if there are any, the Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, said.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/11/05/opinion/editorials/editorial-debate-gun-control.html
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NYTimes: Its Not Too Soon to Debate Gun Control (Original Post)
spanone
Nov 2017
OP
Apparently, the NYT missed the 2013 massive gun control effort after Sandy Hook.
aikoaiko
Nov 2017
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EL34x4
(2,003 posts)1. The only gun control law that needs to be debated is the one that...
...bans every last one of them, compels every American to turn theirs in under penalty of serious prison time, and then sends armed federal agents out to kick in doors and collect the rest of the ones that weren't turned in, shooting anyone standing in their way.
Because, America, this is what it is going to take to get rid of guns (well, maybe about half of them, anyways).
Anything else is nothing but a half-measure that will accomplish absolutely zero reduction in violent crime except to make people feel better.
Wake me up when this is on the table. Until then, everyone might as well just STFU about gun control.
aikoaiko
(34,170 posts)2. Apparently, the NYT missed the 2013 massive gun control effort after Sandy Hook.
In 2013 we saw the biggest gun control initiatives and debate since the 1968 Gun Control Act. Other legislation has been debated in Congress (i.e., using suspected terrorist lists to ban firearm sales where the Democrats voted down the Republican proposal and Republicans voted down the Democrat's proposal).
And yet they think no one has debated gun control since then. Ignorant op ed pieces from the NYT serve no one well.
I suspect when they say "debated" what they really mean is having bills signed into laws. That's not debating by anyone's definition.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)3. Is the gun control debate something new? It has been going on in earnest since the 1st AWB.
Seems its the results that so many have problems with.