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skip fox

(19,359 posts)
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 09:26 AM Nov 2017

Kushner, Saudi Arabia, & The Game of Thrones

Yesterday a very intelligent post sat on General Discussion for hours.

It wondered if Jared Kushner's unannounced trip to Saudi Arabia from Oct. 25th to the 28th had anything to do with the so-called corruption crackdown and "accidental" deaths of the past weekend?

I remember trump said something about what the Saudis should do with their oil companies early last week, I think. Could Kushner have taken US intelligence about the Prince's rivals to facilitate or pinpoint their arrests/deaths?


Why is there no speculation about this on the media??

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Here are the Saudi stories indicating a consolation of power by Prince Mohammad Bin Salman before he takes the throne:

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/05/saudi-arabia-game-of-thrones-has-big-implications-for-oil-market.html

http://www.arabnews.com/node/1189021/saudi-arabia

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Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
1. The last 48 hours in Saudi Arabia: Everything you need to know
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 09:35 AM
Nov 2017

Click on the link to see the penalty for dissing the Crown Prince.

Bet Jared would love one of those laws in the US.

Also, the guys that were arrested, one who made 3 Trillion this year, the government appears taking their money and putting it in the treasury.

OMFG

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The last 48 hours in Saudi Arabia: Everything you need to know
A missile attack. Arrests of powerful businessmen. A lot is happening fast.
2017-11-06 10:14

Malik Al Ash-ShaykhBy Malik Al Ash-Shaykh
GCC Editor
Saudi Arabia Mohammed Bin Salman
Source: NBC News

With a missile attack on the heart of the Saudi capital Riyadh, the arrests of some of the country's most powerful men, and a helicopter crash near the Saudi-Yemeni border, the weekend in the kingdom has been rather eventful, to say the least...

Here is a roundup of all the things that have happened in Saudi Arabia over the past 48 hours:

1. Saudi Arabia announces new anti-terror law
anti-terror law prison sentences saudi arabia
Source: Saudi Gazette
A new anti-terror law was announced in Saudi Arabia that will designate the death penalty for anyone who commits or funds a terror crime that results in the death of an individual.

According to Saudi Gazette, the new law will support sentences of at least 15 years in jail for anyone found guilty of misusing his authority to support terrorism.

A jail term of between 10 and 25 years awaits anyone who sets up a terror entity or holds a leading position within it. Those who incite others to join terror groups, to participate in their activities or to fund them in any way, shape, or form will face up to 25 years in jail.

Providing terrorists with shelter, medical treatment, meeting facilities, or transportation equals up to 20 years in jail, the law said. Additional fines will vary from 3 million Saudi riyals to 10 million Saudi riyals.

2. Saudi Arabia intercepts a missile northeast of the capital Riyadh

On Saturday, Saudi Arabia's air defense forces intercepted and destroyed a ballistic missile northeast of the capital Riyadh, according to Al Arabiya.

The missile did not cause any major damage and was destroyed near Riyadh's King Khalid International Airport (RUH).

The spokesman for the coalition forces who are fighting against Houthi rebels in Yemen, Colonel Turki al-Maliki, said that at 8:07 p.m. a rocket was fired from within the territory of Yemen towards the territory of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

Colonel al-Maliki added that the rocket was aimed at the capital of Riyadh and was launched "indiscriminately and absurdly to target the civilian and populated areas, where it was intercepted and the fragments fell in an uninhabited area east of King Khalid International Airport".

3. Saudi Arabia appoints new ministers for economy and the National Guard
miteb bin abdullah al saud
Pictured: Prince Miteb bin Abdullah, son of the late King Abdullah Source: Reuters
According to Reuters, Saudi Arabia issued a royal decree appointing new ministers for the National Guard and for economy and planning.

Economy Minister Adel Fakieh was replaced by Mohammad Al Tuwaijri while Khalid Bin Ayyaf replaced Prince Miteb Bin Abdullah as National Guard Minister.

Prince Miteb, the preferred son of the late King Abdullah, was once thought to be a leading contender for the throne before the unexpected rise of Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman two years ago.

He had inherited control of the National Guard, an elite internal security force built out of traditional tribal units, from his father, who ran it for five decades.

Prince Miteb was the last remaining member of the late King Abdullah’s branch of the family to hold a position in the upper ranks of the Saudi power structure.

4. Saudi Arabia's anti-corruption committee arrests princes, businessmen, and ex-ministers
saudi prince alwaleed
Source: Getty
According to the Associated Press (AP), 11 princes, 4 current ministers, several businessmen, and a number of former government ministers were arrested under orders from the new anti-corruption committee headed by the Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman on Saturday evening.

Gulf News reports that a senior Saudi official who declined to be identified under briefing rules said that those detained include:

Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, Chairman of Kingdom Holding
Prince Miteb bin Abdullah, former Minister of the National Guard
Prince Turki bin Abdullah, former Governor of Riyadh Province
Khalid al-Tuwaijri, former Chief of the Royal Court
Adel Fakeih, former Minister of Economy and Planning
Ibrahim al-Assaf, former Finance Minister
Abdullah al-Sultan, Commander of the Saudi Navy
Bakr bin Laden, Chairman of Saudi Binladin Group
Mohammad al-Tobaishi, former Head of Protocol at the Royal Court
Amr Al-Dabbagh, former Governor of Saudi Arabian General Investment Authority
Alwaleed al-Ibrahim, Owner of TV network MBC
Khalid A-Mulheim, former Director-General at Saudi Arabian Airlines
Saoud al-Daweesh, former Chief Executive of Saudi Telecom
Prince Turki bin Nasser, former Head of the Presidency of Meteorology and Environment
Prince Fahad bin Abdullah bin Mohammad Al Saud, former Deputy Defence Minister
Saleh Kamel, Businessman
Mohammad al-Amoudi, Businessman
Since the arrests, Saudi authorities have announced that they will be freezing the bank accounts of the detained suspects based on corruption charges.

The Saudi Center for International Communication, an initiative of the Ministry of Culture and Information, said that sums of money that appear to be linked to corruption cases will be reimbursed to the Saudi state’s General Treasury.

5. Saudi prince killed in helicopter crash near the border of Yemen

A Saudi prince was killed on Sunday when a helicopter crashed near the kingdom's southern border with war-torn Yemen, according to Arab News.

Arab News stated that the Deputy Governor of Asir province, Prince Mansour bin Muqrin, and seven others were killed in the helicopter crash but did not reveal the cause of the tragic accident. The group was carrying out an aerial inspection of the region when it crashed.

On Monday, Saudi Press Agency (SPA) also confirmed that the wreckage of the plane was found and a search to find any survivors is underway.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
8. "anti-terror law prison sentences." I'll bet that law has a broad brush.
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 01:47 PM
Nov 2017

Scary.
Something Put-Trump wants to put into place in the U.S.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
2. Why? Why? Why?
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 09:36 AM
Nov 2017

In the immediate aftermath of a visit from KGOP Agent, JarJar the Kush, all HELL breaks loose.

KGOP skulking about doing unknowable dark dealings hither and yon. public be damned.




lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
3. it is quite possible
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 09:36 AM
Nov 2017

but would the CIA stand by while the Clampetts play "Game of Thrones" with their intel?

skip fox

(19,359 posts)
5. Yes.
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 09:42 AM
Nov 2017
The NY Times treats this crackdown as a good thing and furthers Saudi's moderating direction.

But, even so, do we want The Donald and his son-in-law over-riding the State Department and the intelligence agencies by acting on their own?
 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
6. Speculating, but the Saudis may execute the most powerful people in the country and take all their $
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 09:47 AM
Nov 2017

For supporting terrorism

Note also that the Saudis “intercepted” a ballistic missile. No idea what intercepted means, or if the Saudis could actually do that without the help of the US, but it sounds a little like what we might want to do if North Korea launches.

 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
7. Speculating that corruption means fraud means a check to terrorists was not made out to MR TERRORIST
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 09:54 AM
Nov 2017

Funds had to be diverted, obscured, laundered, etc.

Corruption is a catchall word.

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