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applegrove

(118,816 posts)
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 08:07 PM Nov 2017

Texas church killer had previously escaped a mental institution and was still able to buy guns any

BRAD REED at Raw Story

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/texas-church-killer-had-previously-escaped-a-mental-institution-and-was-still-able-to-buy-guns-anyway/

"SNIP..........

It turns out there were even more red flags surrounding Texas church killer Devin Kelley than have been previously reported.

Local news station WFAA has obtained a police report showing that Kelley — who on Sunday gunned down 26 people at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas — actually escaped from a mental institution in 2012, and also threatened his Air Force chain of command even as he faced discipline for alleged domestic abuse.

Police in El Paso, Texas, arrested Kelley in June 2012 shortly after he escaped from the Peak Behavioral Health Services in the nearby city of Santa Teresa, New Mexico. According to the police report, Kelley at the time “suffered from mental disorders and had plans to run” out of the state after his escape from the mental institution.

The report also described Kelley as “a danger to himself and others,” while noting that there was reason to believe he would try to make good on threats he’d made against fellow Air Force officers.


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Texas church killer had previously escaped a mental institution and was still able to buy guns any (Original Post) applegrove Nov 2017 OP
The report has holes in it. Igel Nov 2017 #1

Igel

(35,359 posts)
1. The report has holes in it.
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 08:46 PM
Nov 2017

Sadly, big ones.

Some of them are suspected holes: How many of the really tantalizing bits are quoted from sentence frames that said "Sutherland police suspected that he was attempting" or "the officer spoken with said he thought maybe he suffered from mental disorders and had plans to run". So much is hearsay that it would be good to know what the police on both sides of the phone actually claimed they were saying.

Things like he was arrested at a Greyhound bus station a "stone's throw" from the border with Mexico are just gratuitously misleading. That's where the station is. A couple thousand feet from the border. And the station is 2 1/2 miles or so from the psychiatric center they named. It would be strange if he went miles out of his way to avoid the border. Saying that he bought a ticket for some destination would be less misleading.

BIL's been arrested and put into a mental institution for evaluation. Not every evaluated is found mentally ill; not everybody discharged as not meeting the diagnostic criteria is mentally sound. The criteria are fairly strict in order to err on the side of civil liberty.

It would be helpful, though, to have a police record in Sutherland, not just rely on a report that reports on a report reporting on what police in Sutherland reported to police in El Paso.

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