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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJoe Scar: "Women won this election for Democrats. They stood in line in the cold rain for hours...
and they were NOT GOING TO MOVE!"
Mika: "People were in the streets and marched after the election, now they are turning out to VOTE and send a message to this President!"
They're saying the recruitment of quality Democratic candidates in every State is going to explode. The money is going to pour in! More Republicans in Congress are going to retire by the droves!
This is a great show this morning! Mika is so happy she can barely keep the grin off her face or hold still. But she warns there's still lots of work left to do. Democrats need a leader and a good message to deliver.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)oasis
(49,418 posts)delisen
(6,046 posts)has spent much time trying to ignore or stop while currying favor with the dark side.
Right now these media characters, in the wake of Mueller indictments, are trying to run as fast as they can from anything Russian.
They are no long-term champions of honest news re women.
oasis
(49,418 posts)Donald Trump is so vulgar, stupid, and venal that even the very conservative Joe Scar is disgusted with him. Over the last year Joe has repeatedly and increasingly deplored and criticized Trump. While I am not a big fan of Joe, I'll take any talking head, especially a GOP talking head with a big audience, who rails against Trump. We need every voice and every effort to defeat that traitor in the WH.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)delisen
(6,046 posts)over the past year? Do you think the only traitor is the one in the Oval Office?
Donald Trump was just as vulgar, stupid, and venal last year as he is this year.
The difference in Scarborough's performance is this: Mueller indictments and a Democratic voter counterattack which this talking head is busy trying to spin.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)and that I'll take what I can get from anyone who repudiates Trump. I'm quite aware that the entire Republican party is an evil and corrupt entity.
delisen
(6,046 posts)Democratic leaders for us based upon their prejudices and to define our message into one they deem acceptable to them for their own power and revenue purposes.
Yesterday they wherein one bandwagon-and were pleased to pitch their anti-democratic narrative, today it's jump on another bandwagon.
They don't serve truth, they serve themselves and those for whom they work.
nt
Me.
(35,454 posts)Try to push us aside at your peril
ariadne0614
(1,737 posts)A long dormant feminine warrior spirit is now fully awake. Watch out.
Not only are women expected to weather sexual violence, intimate partner violence, workplace discrimination, institutional subordination, the expectation of free domestic labor, the blame for our own victimization, and all the subtler, invisible cuts that undermine us daily, we are not even allowed to be angry about it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/08/opinion/anger-women-weinstein-assault.html?emc=edit_tnt_20171108&nlid=56823741&tntemail0=y
BigmanPigman
(51,636 posts)in both states and parties were women. I had a feeling that women put it over the top.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)I wont forget that for a minute.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)So actually, Dems did better in 2016 with White Women than we have in decades.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/whats-up-with-white-women-they-voted-for-romney-too
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Margin or not, still ridiculous.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Let alone the existence of Palin, Bachmann and Fiorina.
You could just as well say it's "ridiculous" that women stay with their abusers. But you shouldn't be surprised that there are those that do.
The margin that's voting GOP is shrinking. And that's good.
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)More men overall voted for Trump and more women overall voted for Clinton.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Skittles
(153,204 posts)HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)The fact that even ONE woman voted for Schtroumpf is absurd.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)vote the way that men are voting.
The margin that's voting GOP is shrinking. And that's good.
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)Not so sure about that....
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)At all.
Please re-read my post.
For more information on the women who voted for DT, who identify with a male as their source of power and identity:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/14/us/women-voters-trump.html?_r=0
Not all young women who draw their identity and power from the men they align with are conservative or right wing. It's a very common phase for young women to go through - there a lot of pressure from society to place the approval you get from men as the metric for your value in the world. Especially in college, where the white male, and the white male gaze is what drives social acceptability.
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)That's all I'm saying....
I see more and more college age couples who align politically, either Republican or Democrat, seeking one another out to avoid the other political bent.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)lapucelle
(18,351 posts)I think the Guardian had an excerpt from her book that discusses that very topic.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)feeling overwhelmed by the sheer amount of male scholarship that is used in education (dead white men are the reference for most academic accomplishment), and often feel that they are imposters - not really qualified, but there by chance as a result.
Not to mention that college is very much a white male environment, and their approval of women is the cultural metric of social value for a woman.
It takes a long time to get over that feeling of success being predicated on male approval, and many women, even after college never do.
Evangelical women are expected to maintain that metric their whole lives - pleasing to God and Husband.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)But all too common a behavior sadly.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)It's absurd that we should have to lock our doors, because people shouldn't steal.
Or it's absurd that anyone at all, male of female took DT seriously as a good pick for POTUS.
Way, way more white men voted for DT. I won't forget that.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)I guess I grossly overestimated the intelligence of the American voter.
I seriously thought The Failure Fuhrer was our Stupidity Apex.
WOW, was I wrong.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)I understand now you were talking "absurd" in that it's absurd to you, rather than it's "absurd" in that it was acutally improbable.
scarletlib
(3,418 posts)I am an older white woman. So don't put us all in that category.
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scarletlib
(3,418 posts)I am in the minority category of white women who had enough sense to know better that to vote for that corrupt, blow hard bigoted ass.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)It was women of color that put Northam over the top. As soon as we acknowledge that women of color are now the base of the Democratic Party and get their input, the better off well be.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)The numbers are being crunched now but I think I read that turnout was up 18%! That's HUGE and very significant in a non-presidential election!
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)I think I read that not a single vote was cast for the 3rd Party candidate. It was either Northam (in the 90% range, if I recall) or Gillespie.
treestar
(82,383 posts)are not! It is the POC!
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)I had a friend who's a registered Republican (she didn't vote at the top of the ticket in 2016) march with me in NY in January. She voted straight Democrat yesterday.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)RobinA
(9,896 posts)repeated over and over that Obama was elected by AA voters. Which means white men and women who voted for Obama, and more importantly those who would have but didn't vote because they had to run errands that day, need to get consistently to the polls. Same for white female HRC voters who stayed home because they thought it was in the bag. Same for AA voters who don't show because their one vote doesn't count.
I don't usually vote in this post-presidential election because in my area it's judges and school board. But I went this time to vote for Democrats, hoping that others would do the same and a message would be sent.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)When you have motivated (and pissed off) voters turning out to send a message, you get a BLUE TSUNAMI as was witnessed yesterday across the Nation. People like your friend (and millions of others) vote BLUE down the entire ballot! So awesome...
tavernier
(12,407 posts)and they DID NOT vote for trump. I dont know from polls or statistics; I can only go by the people I know and talk to. But its never a good idea to generalize against any race or sex.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Whether you know that majority of not is not important.
tavernier
(12,407 posts)Im referring to your post title, White women voted for Trump. This makes it sound as though all of us did, which is far from the truth.
Oh, and thanks for the snark. Always gives me a little extra pep in the mornings when Im heading out for work.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)This made me burst out laughing for some reason! I'm STILL laughing...
You are just too cool!
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Romney, McCain or GWB.
Obama did worse with White Women than DT did.
Were you as outraged at white women then?
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)I didn't vote for Trump. I wouldn't vote for him if you gave me free reign of his bank account plus a winning Powerball ticket.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Its a voting group, and its what happened.
sandensea
(21,677 posts)I knew a lot of them - white, rabidly Republican women - in Orange County, CA. They were often more extreme than the men in their right-wing opinions.
Both GOP men and women shared that same racism and all-around self-righteousness you often see on that side of the aisle - but with women, it was spiked with an irrational fear of minorities (particularly minority men).
To borrow a term from Cheeto: Sad.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Sad.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)In 2004, Bush got fifty-five per cent of the white female vote, and Kerry got forty-four per centa reverse gender gap (one working in the G.O.P.s favor) of eleven points. In 2008, McCain got fifty-three per cent of the white female vote, and Obama got forty-six per centa gap of seven points.
DT got 53%
We did better this year with white women.
Were you as angry about white women in 2004 and 2008?
And are you as angry at white men?
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)Mika: "Republicans are in a box and they walked the plank for Trump. His promoting his golf course while giving a MAJOR speech in Korea was beyond GROSS."
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oberliner
(58,724 posts)The Republican carried white women in Virginia (51 percent of white women voted for Gillespie).
It was African-American voters (both men and women) who voted overwhelmingly for the Democratic candidate.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)Were making inroads but still WOC are the consistent voters of the Democratic Party.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)The shift was pretty much identical for both white men and white women.
Point being, it was not women, in particular, who made the difference in this election.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)Every day last week we had a sticky on our front door to remind us to vote and when. We finally left one on the door so theyd stop leaving them.
We also had several door knockers on top of that. Huge difference between 2016 and 2017 in volunteer activity in NoVa.
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)And last year, I doubted what I had spent the last 6 years of my life doing. But I just finished yet another ground game operation and my confidence is restored again.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)kcr
(15,320 posts)Duh! Everyone knows white women are the default! Good catch, oberliner!
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Specifically black women.
kcr
(15,320 posts)mvd
(65,180 posts)It was cold and rainy here also. Major props to her and all the women who did the same!
ananda
(28,879 posts)Kirsten Gillibrand and Elizabeth Warren!
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)And I'm in love with Rep. Adam Schiff (D CA). He's 5-tool and got it all!
Poised, articulate, no drama, honest face and 'wicked smart'. I totally trust him!
IronLionZion
(45,544 posts)Thrill
(19,178 posts)Like in 08. They would never lose any of these elections