The actual story contradicts the claim in the headline.

“But if I ran, I told [Hillary] that I would not run a negative campaign. She said the same,” he writes, in excerpts published by Mail Online, but then she added: “Although some of our supporters can get out of hand sometimes, it would not be me.”

not the campaign of the candidate.

Here's what Joe said about the actual campaigns:

“...if I ran, I told [Hillary], I would not run a negative campaign. She said the same.”

'The former vice president writes about facing the death of his son Beau,
deciding not to pursue a presidential run and dealing with foreign crises.

'Joe Biden’s new memoir, “Promise Me, Dad,” is all about time — but not its sweep or fullness. Instead he has written about the fearsome ticktock of seconds, minutes and hours when our backs are against the wall, and there are obstacles to be faced.

In substance, it is a classic “year in the life” memoir. The book starts just before Thanksgiving 2014 and covers the three signal story lines of his next year: the grueling illness and death of his elder son, Beau, of brain cancer at 46; his difficult decision not to pursue the Democratic nomination for president in 2016; and his welcome workload as vice president, particularly on foreign crises in Iraq, Ukraine and Central America.'

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016195913

and should not be portrayed as such.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016195913

paints a very sympathetic picture of what he has been through, and that extends to when he lost his first wife and child

but in response to the OPs implication, Joe;s time for running for President has come and gone, just like it has for Hillary and Bernie, and I believe in their heart of hearts they realize it.

While I have no idea who will be our nominee in 2020, I suspect it will be someone with the energy and hope we all saw in 2008.

about "portraying it as such", given their misleading headline.

headline:

Joe Biden knew he could beat Hillary Clinton but feared negative campaign, he writes in new memoir

“But if I ran, I told Hillary, I would not run a negative campaign. She said the same,”

and that story is the topic of the OP.

The comments concern the story.

Disgusting.

Why are you posting this shit?

an absolute disgrace.

and that story is the topic of the OP.

The Telegraph should be called out for its inaccurate headline.

IMHO, if he had run Clinton would have won the nomination anyway. Clinton had run 8 years previously in a very competitive primary. There were just many people who had waited that long to finally nominate Clinton.

and this thread is about that story.

Please self delete.

'Biden is to start promoting the book with an appearance on the NBC's Today show on Monday and an extended book tour which will see him appear on stage with big names including Stephen Colbert, Aaron Sorkin, the writer of the West Wing, and Maria Shriver, Arnold Schwarzenegger's ex-wife and a member of the Kennedy clan.'

It's doubtful Biden could have won. Rest assured, his throwing Anita Hill under the bus would have been made a big issue and enough women would have been turned off, and not voted for him to make the difference.

Best VP ever

But I do believe he would have defeated Trump handily in a general election -- too big of a margin to steal and no Comey letters, email servers, or other smear tactics to pin on him.

I do think they would have tried to target them. And I think they would have done some damage.

Certainly the best. And in a normal country, she would have been one of our greatest Presidents. But the right wing hate machine had a 24 year learning period to make her life hell. In the better-run monarchies, the person to be King or Queen is trained and groomed from birth. Hillary Clinton was near to that.

It's true, they hated Biden as well, but had less time invested.

I wonder if she considered Biden & Brazile friends

It would be fine if you became Prez in an emergency, but you couldn't win it on your own.

A GREAT movie and show.

(Facts is facts, of course.)

I liked Joe before, during, and after.

And he beat Paul Ryan senseless in their debate.

Losing 2 primaries doesn't mean a damn thing.

to prevent YOUR election? Is there some reason Russia would have preferred you to Hillary?

All those women who were passionately committed to Hillary would have been much less interested in supporting the candidacy of the Democrat who FAILED in the Anita Hill/Clarence Thomas scandal.

As long as it smeared HRC.

GD: Primary 2016 redux. Any right wing source that smeared democrats was totally acceptable to some. Even longtime GOP hack Joe DiGinova was a lionized on DU. Fuck this noise.

to intervene and target him if he had been the early front runner?

The same goes for Sanders, Warren and O'Malley.

These are the sources we are posting?

among other things:

https://www.salon.com/2015/10/21/joe_bidens_greatest_betrayal_the_one_senate_vote_that_makes_it_hard_to_support_a_biden_run/

He was a great VP and he may have won the National elections but I do not believe he would have beaten Hillary in the Primary.

This OP sucks...and I sure won't buy this book if what you say is true.

... But he has been busy as VP for 8 years and hadn't put all the right people in place to make the primary go smoothly....

So maybe not

he was good enough for Obama to have choosen to take his place as President if something bad had happened.

Not.

Nobody sane had the stomach for getting between her and the nomination and going through that again.