I hope this is not true about Takei, but if it is, let the chips fall where they may.

Misdemeanor vs felony

Hopefully this is a start of a lasting trend. Get everything out.

And time for the truth to come out.
Sunshine is the best disinfectant.

Even people we strongly admire.

Depressing.

Ala Bill Cosby's alleged use of date rape drugs in drinks...

If that hadn't been a factor then I'd say, give me a break, two adult men, both evidently gay and comfortable with it. One make a pass at the other the it is not reciprocated. End of story. Easy enough for one man to refuse to participate.

But the bit about the knockout drink, falling asleep, and waking to being groped, makes it seem rather sleazy if not actionable.

Probably also impossible to prove, after all these years. Unless more men come forward with similar experiences with Takei, or he admits to "making a mistake". Which I tend to doubt, but then this is the 21st Century when anything apparently goes.

Everyone gets their 15 seconds of fame, right?

So yes, watch to see how many others come forward with a similar story.

" So, I have the second one, and then all of a sudden, I begin feeling very disoriented and dizzy, and I thought I was going to pass out. I said I need to sit down and he said sit over here and he had the giant yellow beanbag chair. So I sat down in that and leaned my head back and I must have passed out.”"

http://www.vulture.com/2017/11/george-takei-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-actor-in-1981.html

Even if it was well more than just two drinks, when a person who has been drinking expresses they are feeling sick in any way, that's not the time to start feeling them up.

If the drinks were, say, 5 shots each and he hit his tolerance at 8 shots, so those extra two all at once put him in an unconscious or semi-conscious state, you escort them to a couch or chair when they say they're having issues, yes.

And then find a puke bucket, place it next to them, put them in a position where they will puke into the bucket if they puke.

THEN go jack/jill off in the bathroom if you'd been hoping to get laid to get the rocks off.

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Edit to add: If they come to in a few hours and seem normal, it's potentially okay to make an advance. If they say they're feeling better and get up off the couch and go move around and do stuff other than puke more in the bathroom, they're awake and aware and moving and you have to just hope they aren't blacked out if you want to take the risk. But if nothing else, a wise person realizes excessive alcohol leads to vomiting, and it really sucks to get vomit out of your comforter.

I think that's what everyone should visualize when a person you want to bang gets drunk enough to feel ill. It will, if nothing else, be showing discretion.

Taking sexual advantage of an impaired or incapacitated person is wrong no matter what the reason... but using a substance designed to knock them out quickly is even worse.

... essentially it sounded like you were saying you'd have blown off the accusation had the accuser been voluntarily drunk off his ass or those two drinks had been extremely stiff and he knew it.

Why can't you take my word for it? If you can't, we're done here.

That's all, folks.

... and hoped you could see how what you said could have sounded, even if you didn't intend it to.

Perhaps humanity is reaching a stage where we need to revisit why we idolize people and whether we should in the first place.

but to worship the whole is foolish and bound to lead to disappointment or even destruction.

admired his tweets.

Takei was right in one thing -- sexual assault is sexual assault.

Even if it was far more than two drinks, when a person becomes unconscious or severely intoxicated, you don't decide to undress or fondle them. Enthusiastic consent usually involves both parties undressing each other.

It truthfully doesn't even matter that he was in any sort of power position except that there was, for whatever reason, an unconscious/extremely intoxicated person in front of him and he decided to take advantage.

And unless someone shows some reason that Brunton would lie, I don't buy the Christian Patriarchy concept of it being wrong to "speak up late in the day", or that not disclosing immediately automatically gives an allegation less weight.

This is the stupidest thing I have heard in a long time.
Come on people. Stop taking the bait. We're not talking children here. Maybe it was consentual, maybe not, maybe it never happened... But they are both adults. People are being psychologically manipulated here for political reasons. Just stop taking the bait.

In other words, maybe it wasn't sexual assault, or may be it was.

Huge difference.

Are you really saying it's impossible for one adult to inappropriately touch another? Are really saying one adult cannot sexually assault another.

That is ridiculous.

I recalled a few years back, a male porn star (James Deen) sexually assaulted female porn stars during the filming of scenes that they were both being paid for and had agreed to have sex in. It was still sexual assault.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/james-deen-rape-explainer_us_566063f8e4b079b2818d68f4

If it were a date rape drunk, then there would be no memory.

Someone who also uses a date rope drug likely does it does it multiple times.

At least George took no as no.

George hasn't replied as of yet


Ugh


Halloween is over. No more skeletons

Maybe... it means... he turned off his community posts! Or maybe they weren't on!

No reply? He has to reply. He's supposed to when his community posts are off... or on... It's the law.

When someone accuses you of something that people are titillated about and it's bad... whether true or not... I suggest you don't reply to the universe.

Not really surprised tbh

If the accusation is true, then it is highly likely that there were other victims. Sexual predators don't just do it once.