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HipChick

(25,485 posts)
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 11:39 AM Nov 2017

Daycare center employee raped a 12-year old child in Alabama...Judge finds him not guilty


It was an open and shut case. A daycare center employee, Eric Higdon, raped a 12-year old child. He was found guilty under a sodomy statute specific to minors by all members of the 9-judge panel supreme court in Alabama.

Actually, make that all 9 members except one.

Judge Roy Moore.
Moore stated there was “no evidence in this case of an implied threat of serious physical injury.” A child was raped. What kind of “judge” says that?

The exact same judge who sexually assaulted a 14-year old girl in a court custody case!

It’s not like Alabama GOP voters didn’t know about Moore’s awful decision: his primary opponent blanketed the airwaves with ads attacking him for it. Alabama GOP voters just didn’t give a ****. They voted for him overwhelmingly anyway.

(What got lost in Moore’s scandals was the fact that he was entirely unqualified to begin with--Moore was twice removed from the Alabama’s top court for violating the U.S. Constitution.)

But now, Alabama GOP voters recently learned that Moore took a 14-year old child—whom he promised her mother he would watch while she attended a custody hearing— to his home in the woods, gave her alcohol, stripped her, slobbered over her, and tried to guide her hand to his private area.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/10/1714373/-Now-that-you-ve-tried-to-justify-child-molestation-we-re-done-reaching-out-to-you
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Daycare center employee raped a 12-year old child in Alabama...Judge finds him not guilty (Original Post) HipChick Nov 2017 OP
Moore is the anti-christ, or at least the anti-jesus. SharonClark Nov 2017 #1
I like calling these hypocrites the Anti-Christ. After all it is Anti-Christian Maraya1969 Nov 2017 #2
Maybe the Antichrist is supposed to be a composite character. nt tblue37 Nov 2017 #6
Forget anichrist, here's the actual decision on the case. :) Hortensis Nov 2017 #19
He's anti "The parts of the Bible you like... Baconator Nov 2017 #10
I prefer to think of him as the face of the Values Voters. Initech Nov 2017 #26
And this wasn't decades ago. Archae Nov 2017 #3
And he still won his primary, no problem. LisaL Nov 2017 #4
Was the day care center worker white and the child black? OregonBlue Nov 2017 #5
No. LisaL Nov 2017 #8
This info is all wrong sarah FAILIN Nov 2017 #11
Yes, there appears to be a lot of info wrong, but not about Moore voting against reinstating LisaL Nov 2017 #12
I'll watch at home sarah FAILIN Nov 2017 #13
This is not accurate information, the children were 3 to 5 sarah FAILIN Nov 2017 #7
We appear to have a Chrisis (pronounced as "crisis") Zambero Nov 2017 #9
+1000! dchill Nov 2017 #15
The only logical conclusion is that they agree and like this...PERIOD. Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #16
Roy Moore fucks children. Iggo Nov 2017 #17
Terrific article! LiberalLovinLug Nov 2017 #18
They fuck children down there because fucking sheep (zoophilia) will get them a year in prison. TheBlackAdder Nov 2017 #20
I read the dissent. We are making too much of it. He challenges the majority's definition Shrike47 Nov 2017 #21
Many thanks for the additional information. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #25
Thank you for this !!! Moore has a ... HISTORY ... of this shit uponit7771 Nov 2017 #22
That is a seriously righteous rant. Just posted it to my FB account. GoneOffShore Nov 2017 #23
Al Abama Blue Owl Nov 2017 #24

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. Forget anichrist, here's the actual decision on the case. :)
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 02:25 PM
Nov 2017
http://caselaw.findlaw.com/al-supreme-court/1707584.html

A majority overruled one particular point of law at the request of the state. Moore dissents. Maybe one of our people in the legal field will stumble across this and interpret.

The 17-year-old defendant was sentenced to 23 years in prison, and that is not affected by this decision. The actual sex crime seems to have been the defendant putting small children's penises in his mouth as a form of oral sex. "Sodomy." Alabama's legal definition very different from how most of us use the word.

The reasoning of the majority comes first, then Moore's dissent. The majority seem to think "implied threat" can come from any person of authority with the ability to punish as seen by a small child.

Moore argues for this definition: The “implied” threat in the definition of forcible compulsion is not the threat of sexual assault but of “immediate death or serious physical injury.”

Don't know what to think about the whole thing except that Moore would obviously raise the bar considerably higher on the crime that particular provision involving "implied threat" could be applied against.

About this point, though, I am remembering a 14-year-old girl being encouraged to take her clothes off by a person of authority. If this happened, it seems Moore liked to regard their interaction as entirely consensual, no "implied threat" from the fact that children are required to obey authority or that he was a man who had her alone in his house.

Initech

(100,080 posts)
26. I prefer to think of him as the face of the Values Voters.
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 08:27 PM
Nov 2017

He's one of them. Actually, he is them. He's all their hatred, prejudice, bigotry, homophobia, sexism, ageism, racism, and misogyny rolled into one ugly, disgusting face. He's equal parts Pat Robertson, Phil Robertson, Bryan Fischer, Theodore Shoebat, and every other horrible fundamentalist out there. As long as he walks free and is able to run for Senate, he's everything disgusting, soulless and wrong that the Values Voters stand for. He's their face, and we should make him their face. They own this.

And the same goes for anyone who defends this piece of shit, they stand for that as well.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
11. This info is all wrong
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 12:10 PM
Nov 2017

But the perpetrator was black, no race on the 4 children who were ages 3 to 5. The boy wasn't an employee, but the son of an employee.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
13. I'll watch at home
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 12:24 PM
Nov 2017

My phone down loads slowly..

I don't doubt it is what he said, but I think all the info should be right or people will deny and yell fake news

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
7. This is not accurate information, the children were 3 to 5
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 12:05 PM
Nov 2017

And Higdon was the child of an employee, not an actual employee. He was sentenced to 23 years initially. I'm on my phone and can't look it up now as to how the appeals went, but I hate to repeat something before I have it straight. If this article has this much wrong, it may have more wrong so I I would double check it.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
9. We appear to have a Chrisis (pronounced as "crisis")
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 12:08 PM
Nov 2017

Posing as devout Christian. Mindset of ISIS with abhorrent actions to match.

Response to HipChick (Original post)

Iggo

(47,558 posts)
17. Roy Moore fucks children.
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 02:04 PM
Nov 2017

So of course he sympathizes with others who do the same.

(And, yes, I'm going to continue to use the words "fucks children" when I talk about him or anyone else who fucks children.)

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
18. Terrific article!
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 02:21 PM
Nov 2017

The author speaks for a lot of us. I know we hear how the "sensible" approach is that we must find some common ground with these ugly stupid ignorant fools that STILL would vote for Trump if they could.

But for gawds sake, sometimes ya just gotta vent. That "other side" has to at least start to come to the center, to at least acknowledge Trump is unfit (even if they'd never vote Democrat) ...something to start.

But this author is right, as it stands now at least, these people are not only deplorable they are irredeemable.

When you can justify the rape or assault of children, I’m f****** done with you.

You pedophile-loving, sexual-assault defending, Bible-thumping, Putin-worshipping, evil, authoritarian racist losers can all drown for all I care. (Or, what would be more likely, shoot each other up.) If these are the values of the so-called “heartland”, than f*** the heartland.

You embrace hatred of your fellow man, yet promote lust for someone’s else’s child. Then you have the sick audacity to say you promote “family values”. You don’t need economic help--you need psychological help. The only people worse than you are the GOP silent enablers who excuse every monstrous thing because speaking out might mean they won’t get to kick a poor person in the teeth anymore.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
21. I read the dissent. We are making too much of it. He challenges the majority's definition
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 02:55 PM
Nov 2017

of forcible compulsion. He states clearly that the sodomy conviction was appropriate; the dispute is over whether the teenager's inherent authority over the children is sufficient to equal forcible compulsion, which is defined by statute. That refers to the second count of the indictment. I don't think you can conclude from his dissent that he's pro-pedophile.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
25. Many thanks for the additional information.
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 08:18 PM
Nov 2017

Based on that, I agree with you that this case proves a lot less than the OP suggests.

I appreciate your courage in posting something that undercuts the Official DU Orthodoxy on this matter.

GoneOffShore

(17,340 posts)
23. That is a seriously righteous rant. Just posted it to my FB account.
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 04:00 PM
Nov 2017

And it sums up exactly what I've been thinking for the past year.

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