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Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 07:32 PM Nov 2017

Op-EdRoy Moore's alleged pursuit of a young girl is the symptom of a larger problem in evangelical

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-brightbill-roy-moore-evangelical-culture-20171110-story,amp.html

Op-Ed Roy Moore's alleged pursuit of a young girl is the symptom of a larger problem in evangelical circles


We need to talk about the segment of American culture that probably doesn’t think the allegations against Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore are particularly damning, the segment that will blanch at only two accusations in the Washington Post expose: He pursued a 14-year-old-girl without first getting her parents’ permission, and he initiated sexual contact outside of marriage. That segment is evangelicalism. In that world, which Moore travels in and I grew up in, 14-year-old girls courting adult men isn’t uncommon.

I use the phrase “14-year-old girls courting adult men,” rather than “adult men courting 14-year-old girls,” for a reason: Evangelicals routinely frame these relationships in those terms. That’s how I was introduced to these relationships as a home-schooled teenager in the 1990s, and it’s the language that my friends and I would use to discuss girls we knew who were in parent-sanctioned relationships with older men.

One popular courtship story that was told and retold in home-school circles during the 1990s was that of Matthew and Maranatha Chapman, who turned their history into a successful career promoting young marriage. Most audiences, however, didn’t realize just how young the Chapmans had in mind until the site Homeschoolers Anonymous and the blogger Libby Anne revealed that Matthew was 27 and Maranatha was 15 when they married. Libby Anne also drew mainstream attention to Matthew Chapman’s writings, in which he argued that parents should consider marriage for their daughters in their “middle-teens.” At that point the Chapmans stopped receiving quite so many speaking invitations.

(Big SNIP after paragraphs about home schooling evangelicals, family camps to arrange marriages, and Phil Robertson, etc. )

The allegations against Roy Moore are merely a symptom of a larger problem. It’s not a Southern problem or an Alabama problem. It’s a Christian fundamentalist problem. Billy Graham’s grandson, Boz Tchividjian, who leads the organization GRACE (Godly Response to Abuse in a Christian Environment), believes that the sexual abuse problem in Protestant communities is on par with that in the Catholic Church.

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Op-EdRoy Moore's alleged pursuit of a young girl is the symptom of a larger problem in evangelical (Original Post) Ilsa Nov 2017 OP
Guess this would explain the marriages of Jerry Lee Lewis and Loretta Lynn. no_hypocrisy Nov 2017 #1
Some states have no minimum age for legal marriage: Just court order, and pregnancy works lindysalsagal Nov 2017 #2
This is no better than third world and fundamentalist nations Ilsa Nov 2017 #4
PEW: Median age for marriage lowest in Utah, Idaho, Arkansas, Oklahoma: lindysalsagal Nov 2017 #3
Good article. dalton99a Nov 2017 #5
I thought so. Also, I read some of the Blog articles Ilsa Nov 2017 #6

no_hypocrisy

(46,122 posts)
1. Guess this would explain the marriages of Jerry Lee Lewis and Loretta Lynn.
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 08:25 PM
Nov 2017

Loretta Lynn was 15 when she married Mooney (age 21) one month after meeting him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loretta_Lynn#Birth.2C_parents_and_siblings.2C_and_famous_relatives

Jerry Lee Lewis married Myra Gayle Brown (first cousin, once removed) when she was 13 and he was 22.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Lee_Lewis#Marriage_controversy

It's how things were/are done in some parts of the South with the blessings of their churches.

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
2. Some states have no minimum age for legal marriage: Just court order, and pregnancy works
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 11:09 PM
Nov 2017

I was just wondering, and it's a little scary: Some states allow marriage with a court order especially in the case of a teen pregnancy. Holy crap. All you have to do is knock her up, and bingo! Her parents and a judge might just give her to you.

I had no idea.

Alabama minimum is 14. MIssissippi is 15. Montana is 16. NY 14. WOW!

We have child labor laws, but not marriage laws. That's messed up.
https://www.thespruce.com/legal-age-marriage-laws-by-state-2300971

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
4. This is no better than third world and fundamentalist nations
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 11:23 PM
Nov 2017

that we criticize for being poor on women's rights.

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
3. PEW: Median age for marriage lowest in Utah, Idaho, Arkansas, Oklahoma:
Sat Nov 11, 2017, 11:17 PM
Nov 2017

The median age for marriage for women is 4 points lower than in high-median states.
http://www.pewresearch.org/2009/10/15/the-states-of-marriage-and-divorce/

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
6. I thought so. Also, I read some of the Blog articles
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 02:37 PM
Nov 2017

on the website for GRACE. Several were really good, explaining what churches must do when they discover sex offenders and victims within the church.

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