think this would impact 2018 in anyway.

It is obviously better for a Democrat to win this seat.

do you think, for a moment, he won't do or say something stupid in that time?

And every time Roy Moore says something stupid, this issue will reappear.

There would be no bigger momentum heading into 2018 than taking a senate seat in ALABAMA.

if/when he wins, it represents one more step towards normalizing all kinds of criminal activity, including sexual abuse and child molestation, by Republicans in particular and powerful men in general.

political arguments can gtfo, this is basic human decency at stake now. granted, the market value for basic human decency has taken quite a tumble over the last year, but some of us still hold it dear.

I think that would be a net positive for the reasons you mentioned, but most disagreed.

Of course, we would really prefer the Democratic candidate to win and that could happen

If he loses, it's easier for us to regain the Senate in 2018.

that Trump would bring the revolution.

but this is still an uphill climb and no Massachusetts Liberal is going to change the mind of an Alabama voter.

What can we do with this election if Moore wins? There is a silver lining. After all, Alabama is just one state.

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to belong to us as Scott Brown getting the MA seat was for them.

If he votes with the Democrats - and they have done a good job sticking together - then it would mean that instead of needing 3 Republicans we need two. That is a major difference - especially because it is possible that we will continue to have Collins on healthcare. The Republican control of the Senate is pretty weak and if they were down to 51, it is weaker. They talk and act as if they have the supermajority Obama had - if only for 4 months.

I would suspect that the outrage factor on Ray Moore, unless he would show interest in a young girl now, will fade. He could continue as Alabama's Senator for years.

But Alabama and America are certainly better off if Moore loses. He's worse than Trump.

If Moore wins that adds to the moral bankruptcy that is creeping through society. He must lose and lose decisively.

That is a very, very, very Conservative, Republican, Red state.

They dig in. The voters are among the least educated in the country and the most right wing. Confederate flags everywhere. The Klan is not a bad word there. It would be no surprise to me if Moore wins. I'd rather he lose. I want the Dems to have that seat.

But we must prepare for the possible eventuality of Roy Moore in the US Senate and make the most of all his negatives, if it happens.

is worth more than what impact Moore may have on the 2018 election. You take control of the Senate any way you can get it and as narrow a chance as the Dems have in 2018, one seat could be the difference. You have control of judicial nominees, chairmanships, investigations, etc. Not even a close call, apart from the morality of thinking a Moore win would be good. As another poster said, this smacks of Sarandon logic.

I don't understand how is that even a question. I am guessing OP doesn't believe a democrat can win in Alabama and is devising some way that losing would be better than winning.

I said, in the first line, that I'd rather a win than a loss. But, "an argument can be made" that a loss still has some advantage to it, as Roy Moore will say and do things that will weaken the Republicans in other areas, by forcing vulnerable, sitting Republican Senators and Challengers in reasonable states (Arizona, Nevada, Missouri, etc.) to defend indefensible statements from a sitting Senator in their own party. He can be used against them.

I hope you get my point.