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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 01:50 PM Nov 2017

15,000 Scientists Urge Action Before 'Vast Human Misery' Takes Over

HOW TO SAVE HUMANITY: 15,000 Scientists Urge Action Before 'Vast Human Misery' Takes Over
BY SYDNEY PEREIRA ON 11/13/17 AT 12:25 PM

More than 15,000 scientists signed a warning letter to humanity. Its namesake? "A Second Notice." These experts are warning humanity for the second time against catastrophic biodiversity loss and widespread misery for humans, in a cautionary message for humans to make major changes.

One solution, likely the most obvious: Phase out fossil fuels and increase green technologies and renewable energy. Plus, divest from fossil fuels altogether. Divestment—which refers to the ending of monetary investments of fossil fuels—would “encourage positive environmental change.”

Eating more plant-based foods would also curb the impending doom scientists predict, as well as reducing food waste overall. How to do that, they wrote, is through education and better infrastructure.

The economic structure should address wealth inequalities in order to ensure that prices, taxation, and incentive systems take into account the cost of consumption patterns on the environment. General appreciation of nature, and an increase in nature education for children could help, too.

http://www.newsweek.com/how-save-humanity-15000-scientists-urge-action-vast-human-misery-takes-over-709403
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15,000 Scientists Urge Action Before 'Vast Human Misery' Takes Over (Original Post) workinclasszero Nov 2017 OP
K&R Roland99 Nov 2017 #1
I keep thinking of the line from Green Day's "american idiot"... Javaman Nov 2017 #2
Environmental policy is security policy Saviolo Nov 2017 #3
We are going to see wars over water and arable land within 100 years. crosinski Nov 2017 #4
I was going to say 70 years... Saviolo Nov 2017 #5
+100 for your commentary. Duppers Nov 2017 #12
Yeah but there are 7 scientists that disagree so their opinion takes precedent. Kablooie Nov 2017 #6
"... vast human misery..."? Turbineguy Nov 2017 #7
Pfffft! Scientists! What Do They Know ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #8
I think it is too late. padfun Nov 2017 #9
K & R Duppers Nov 2017 #10
Yep. The feces start hitting the fan around 2030. By 2050 misery Persondem Nov 2017 #11
now we'll see what the rest of the world can get done without us 0rganism Nov 2017 #13
What will the immigrant hating republicans do when our fellow Americans start CrispyQ Nov 2017 #14

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
2. I keep thinking of the line from Green Day's "american idiot"...
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 02:58 PM
Nov 2017

"television dreams of tomorrow aren't the ones we were meant to follow".

we are a critical point in our existence and we have a complete fucking moron for a president.

in a phrase: we are soooooooo fucked.

Saviolo

(3,283 posts)
3. Environmental policy is security policy
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 03:01 PM
Nov 2017

As climate change and habitat destruction increase, arable land continues to shrink. As we use more and more natural resources to harvest less and less (fracking, for instance), we create a system of increasing scarcity but poisoning things like vital aquifers, and using up fresh water.

We've got a bit over seven and a half billion people in the world, and many of them are living in areas that are rapidly becoming non-arable. Farming will be impossible because there will not be sufficient fresh water to irrigate. People already living at the margins will be pushed further towards already overcrowded and overstretched communities, and there will be conflict. We are going to see wars over water and arable land within 100 years.

Meanwhile we're fishing the oceans empty, causing species to go extinct at a rate rarely seen, and still growing growing growing. We're still burning fossil fuels, making plastic (and throwing it in the ocean), burning rainforests to make room for cattle. It's all accelerating, the brakes have long since given way, there's no stopping it. Permafrost in Siberia and Northern Canada is melting releasing long-held methane and other greenhouse gases, causing a potential runaway greenhouse effect. It's too late to stop it, but we've got to take our foot off of the gas pedal.

I don't expect it to happen, just wishful thinking.

crosinski

(412 posts)
4. We are going to see wars over water and arable land within 100 years.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 03:26 PM
Nov 2017

Maybe sooner than we think.

Here's an article from National Geographic from 2016.

Beijing isn’t the only place experiencing subsidence, or sinking, as soil collapses into space created as groundwater is depleted. Parts of Shanghai, Mexico City, and other cities are sinking, too. Sections of California’s Central Valley have dropped by a foot, and in some localized areas, by as much as 28 feet.


What You Need To Know About The Worlds Water Wars



Duppers

(28,127 posts)
12. +100 for your commentary.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 05:28 PM
Nov 2017

👍

Unfortunately this is the last thing anyone even wants to talk about or acknowledge as fact.

We, as a species, are a cross between pigs and lemmings.


Kablooie

(18,641 posts)
6. Yeah but there are 7 scientists that disagree so their opinion takes precedent.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 04:20 PM
Nov 2017

And they are very well respected as Fox News contributors.

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Turbineguy

(37,370 posts)
7. "... vast human misery..."?
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 04:29 PM
Nov 2017

That will never work. They should have threatened "universal happiness". Then the republicans would do something.

ProfessorGAC

(65,195 posts)
8. Pfffft! Scientists! What Do They Know
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 04:31 PM
Nov 2017

Go to school for a really long time and it gets you nowhere. Oh wait: I did that and it got me somewhere. Never mind.

padfun

(1,787 posts)
9. I think it is too late.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 04:45 PM
Nov 2017

How are you going to get 3 billion people to just stop driving? You aren't.

It is nice that we are slowly moving to cleaner systems but we are at a snails pace while mother nature has already begun her retribution.

So... BRACE FOR IMPACT!

Persondem

(1,936 posts)
11. Yep. The feces start hitting the fan around 2030. By 2050 misery
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 05:25 PM
Nov 2017

becomes more common than not, ... except in some pockets of affluence in North America & Europe.

0rganism

(23,970 posts)
13. now we'll see what the rest of the world can get done without us
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 05:50 PM
Nov 2017

since it's becoming quite clear that the federal government will not be taking this seriously anytime soon as long as Republicans control everything

CrispyQ

(36,525 posts)
14. What will the immigrant hating republicans do when our fellow Americans start
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 01:22 PM
Nov 2017

immigrating from places like AZ & TX, due to heat & lack of water? It's gonna get ugly on planet Earth. Man, I won the human lottery when I think of when & where I was born.

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