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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe whole 'Ageism' thing is very interesting.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/11/20/why-ageism-never-gets-old?mbid=nl_Weekly%20111317&CNDID=22872594&spMailingID=12348430&spUserID=MTMzMTc5ODUwMjY0S0&spJobID=1281237764&spReportId=MTI4MTIzNzc2NAS2Great piece in the New Yorker about how it works in Silicon Valley.
And an interesting little bit:
Like the racist and the sexist, the ageist rejects an Other based on a perceived difference. But ageism is singular, because its directed at a group that at one point wasnt the Otherand at a group that the ageist will one day, if all goes well, join. The ageist thus insults his own future self. Karmas a bitch: the Baltimore Longitudinal Study of Aging reports, Those holding more negative age stereotypes earlier in life had significantly steeper hippocampal volume loss and significantly greater accumulation of neurofibrillary tangles and amyloid plaques. Ageists become the senescent figures they once abhorred.
So, those youngsters who dismiss us 'old farts' become old farts and they have a greater chance of becoming victims of Alzheimers.
As the piece says: 'Karma's a bitch'.
LisaM
(27,827 posts)Through Facebook, I can tell that people who were really at the top of their game in high school are often the people who've dropped off the most since.
LisaM
(27,827 posts)as discrimination against younger people. I'm in my fifties, not the least decrepit, very active, good at my job (even the technological aspects) and I feel as if there are people who are more ready to push me out than mine me for my institutional knowledge and experience!
Well, these are strange times.
GoneOffShore
(17,340 posts)KPN
(15,649 posts)Gotta love WHAT?
As the piece from the article and you said. It really is perfect irony.
BigmanPigman
(51,626 posts)Our country is growing older yet they want to gut medicare...That makes sense.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Its become fashionable for young progressives on Twitter to refer to Hillary voters as wine moms and other ageist comments.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,340 posts)And do you recall: 'Never trust anybody over thirty'?
Perhaps that's why our generation is starting to show those same symptoms.
Those holding more negative age stereotypes earlier in life had significantly steeper hippocampal volume loss and significantly greater accumulation of neurofibrillary tangles and amyloid plaques.
kcr
(15,319 posts)It is interesting. I think when we're young, age is in the same category as dying; something that seems so far off in the future that it's abstract, not reality. That makes old people the Other. Combine that with how our culture is not kind to the elderly and reveres youth. Ageism is a tough nut to crack for those reasons.
GoneOffShore
(17,340 posts)elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)The more it sounds like a bunch of immature bro dudes.
Much like a frat.
GoneOffShore
(17,340 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)My dad used to say much the same...just in different words.
ck4829
(35,086 posts)Kind of like how racists rail against 'lazy minorities on welfare' yet they don't do any work themselves.
It's projection.
nolabear
(41,991 posts)Mind you, Mr. Bear is higher level in a large tech company that bought a company that bought a company that he founded back in the 80s. But two things that are really different in our experience are that the older high level people stay and the programmers, engineers, etc. are replaceable whether they're young or old because there are so many of them. Those with long term connections in the field and multiple disciplines that let them both deal with the engineering and the management,training, networking, etc. are valuable and held onto.
The other thing is that the world, particularly the tech world, is FAR more multinational than is depicted in the article. So there are multiple perspectives on aging, family responsibility, life goals, etc.
In my experience aging sucks in that these damned bodies can really get in your way and be painful to an extent that you can't imagine until you're there, but staying on top of what the world, young and old, is up to in every aspect and being interested and engaged gives you great advantages in some ways and not in others. In particular, we older people make poor commodities. We can't guarantee that we have no lives, will be exploitable for many years for little recompense, and will be pushed around by employers without having the confidence to tell them to go fuck themselves.