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riversedge

(70,288 posts)
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 08:02 AM Nov 2017

This is an abuse of power to go after political opponents....no choice but for Congress to Impeach



John Harwood Retweeted
Richard W. Painter? @RWPUSA
10h10 hours ago

This is an abuse of power to go after political opponents. At this point there is no choice but for Congress to impeach.


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This is an abuse of power to go after political opponents....no choice but for Congress to Impeach (Original Post) riversedge Nov 2017 OP
Sessions will be testifying before an Investigating committee TODAY riversedge Nov 2017 #1
It would represent tyranny to use the levers of government to attack a political opponent in an Trust Buster Nov 2017 #2
Off & on I've heard talk of a general strike or a consumer Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2017 #3
Agree we need Solidarty to make it happen. riversedge Nov 2017 #5
That's where our power lies Abouttime Nov 2017 #8
Yes! Millions unemployed and in poverty MichMan Nov 2017 #30
Wrong, a general strike would be a boon to the proletariat Abouttime Nov 2017 #31
Or, we can just let the 1% sit back and laugh at us and continue to Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2017 #32
Why would you want to take out your anger on those who had nothing to do with it? MichMan Nov 2017 #33
Spare me your poutrage. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2017 #35
The RW will frame it as a threat to national security, similar to a boycott of TV. Eyeball_Kid Nov 2017 #26
No. "A real revolution" not needed now & would kill many people needlessly. Please stop. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2017 #9
But when you talk about distruction Soxfan58 Nov 2017 #14
"Don't you know you can count me in...out" J.L. Merlot Nov 2017 #25
In any other universe, impeachment would be a given.... FM123 Nov 2017 #4
Abuse of Dem Candidates /Pivotal Issue Big Oil & Russia delisen Nov 2017 #6
The guilty easily succumb to seize mentality. We are under attack, so anythhing is justified. L. Coyote Nov 2017 #7
Unless 2018 brings a Democratic House the United States Constitution and rule of law is finished. gordianot Nov 2017 #10
You may be right about that ... and that KPN Nov 2017 #15
No choice? Mr. Painter hasn't been paying much attention to this Congress, then. tanyev Nov 2017 #11
My thought exactly. Pacifist Patriot Nov 2017 #13
Yup! KPN Nov 2017 #16
He is destroying institutions orangecrush Nov 2017 #12
First a coup d' etat, then a civilian junta... magicarpet Nov 2017 #21
Sure 'nuff. orangecrush Nov 2017 #29
Impeach? AlleganCarpenter Nov 2017 #17
Supposedly, Sessions is to "evaluate" the possibility of an appointment. Ligyron Nov 2017 #18
Impeachment is off the table njhoneybadger Nov 2017 #19
Until there are charges that are watertight. Otherwise.... ehrnst Nov 2017 #23
They're trying to Wag The Dog on Roy Moore. Initech Nov 2017 #20
They need this "scandal" to remove Mueller. Like they needed "Benghazi" to ehrnst Nov 2017 #22
this is no longer the usa i once knew. its some 3d rate country now. AllaN01Bear Nov 2017 #24
How is it different? Merlot Nov 2017 #27
At this time they are capable of any crime. BSdetect Nov 2017 #28
Ooooh, there's always a choice. Iggo Nov 2017 #34
 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
2. It would represent tyranny to use the levers of government to attack a political opponent in an
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 08:08 AM
Nov 2017

Effort to distract from the Russia investigation. If this happens, a “real” revolution must commence IMO.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
3. Off & on I've heard talk of a general strike or a consumer
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 08:24 AM
Nov 2017

purchasing freeze ( just buying basic necessities.)

Street protests can be ignored or turn bloody, w militarized cops fucking up the people. And money is one of the few things the RW cares about, so I think strikes & withholding consumer dollars may be the way to go.

If only we had the solidarity to make it happen.

 

Abouttime

(675 posts)
8. That's where our power lies
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 08:47 AM
Nov 2017

General strike, purchasing freeze, we can show 'me who's really boss if we crash the economy. Knocking 10,000 points off the Dow would get their attention!

MichMan

(11,960 posts)
30. Yes! Millions unemployed and in poverty
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 02:00 PM
Nov 2017

Let's hope the economy crashes and millions are unemployed and homeless. Millions more retired and near retirement have their lifelong savings decimated.

Then when Trump gets blamed, we can just sit back and laugh, laugh, laugh at all of it at their expense





 

Abouttime

(675 posts)
31. Wrong, a general strike would be a boon to the proletariat
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 04:08 PM
Nov 2017

It would hurt the 1% and the worlds elite, the average American would see little disruption in day to day life, in fact a correction in markets would likely lower consumer prices.
Once tRump is deposed and Democrats are back in charge the economy will boom just like it did in the Obama years. A short term correction is a small price to pay for overturning a stolen election.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
32. Or, we can just let the 1% sit back and laugh at us and continue to
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 11:39 PM
Nov 2017

steal from the rest of us. They have stolen countless people's retirement savings already and will continue to do so in any underhanded way possible. For instance, by having the government hand them more tax breaks while taking away services and bankrupting the many of us.

The economy has been great for them for many years, while everyone else is left with a continuously diminishing share. Maybe it will take some temporary sacrifice to get the economy back to working for everyone.

If you have a better solution, by all means, share.

MichMan

(11,960 posts)
33. Why would you want to take out your anger on those who had nothing to do with it?
Thu Nov 16, 2017, 01:50 PM
Nov 2017

So you are hoping that someone like myself nearing retirement in 5 years loses half my savings and call it a 'temporary sacrifice" ?

I worked hard for 30 years to contribute to my 401k and didn't steal it from anyone. Yet, you are hoping I lose a significant portion of it and live in near poverty. How dare you.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
35. Spare me your poutrage.
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 02:11 AM
Nov 2017

How dare you put your own self-interest ahead of the good of the nation and the very lives of millions of your fellow Americans???!!!

(Oh, and nice job purposely missing the point. You had to try real hard or be well practiced at it to accomplish that. Welcome to my Ignore list)

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
26. The RW will frame it as a threat to national security, similar to a boycott of TV.
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:54 AM
Nov 2017

Indeed, it is. The whole of consumer society rests with "consuming". Without buying, the economy is immediately in peril. That's the power that "Consumers United" holds.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
25. "Don't you know you can count me in...out" J.L.
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:54 AM
Nov 2017

He was known to sing it both ways.

He got a lot of pushback for saying "in" people felt he held so much power and influence that if he said "in" people would actually be in.

FM123

(10,054 posts)
4. In any other universe, impeachment would be a given....
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 08:26 AM
Nov 2017

After seeing the refusal of many republican folks in AL to denounce Moore, my fear is that even with more than enough evidence to impeach Trumpy, our republican congress will refuse.

delisen

(6,044 posts)
6. Abuse of Dem Candidates /Pivotal Issue Big Oil & Russia
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 08:43 AM
Nov 2017

and Fossil Fuel Exploitation, Human Rights.

Political Attack on H Clinton at the Intersection of Corporate exploitation, Human Rights, Money In Politics, and Foreign Influence in Our elections.

We must not allow the abuse of our candidates to further foreign interests (Putin and Russia) or to further Republican big money contributions, or to stand in the way of the work of the special prosecutor Mueller's criminal investigation of Trump associates.

In the instance of of H Clinton - we already know that Putin was motivated to interfere with our election process because Clinton stood up to him.

Trump and pro-big oil forces want those sanctions lifted that were put in place for good reason by the Obama administration. On this issue the big oil backers seem to be in the same camp with Putin and against H Clinton and America.

I do not know where Sanders progressives stand on Russia, big oil interests, fossil fuel exploitation in Russia by American oil companies, economic sanctions and Russian attempts to destabilize Nato.

Would like to hear from the those wanting to reform the Democratic Party on these issues.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
7. The guilty easily succumb to seize mentality. We are under attack, so anythhing is justified.
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 08:46 AM
Nov 2017

It seems like the ghost of John Birch lives in the White House now, running the HR department, making sure only paranoids get hired.

gordianot

(15,243 posts)
10. Unless 2018 brings a Democratic House the United States Constitution and rule of law is finished.
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:02 AM
Nov 2017

We have few checks and no balances left after the Russian coup.

KPN

(15,649 posts)
15. You may be right about that ... and that
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:34 AM
Nov 2017

worries me because winning the House in 2018 means beating all the gerrymandering. I'm not sure enough R's have been turned off by Trumpism sufficiently for that to happen. They are still invested in their other ideological goals that get in the way of any sensibility whatsoever on Russia.

Scary.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,654 posts)
13. My thought exactly.
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:17 AM
Nov 2017

How many impeachable offenses have they blatantly ignored now? I don't think I can count that high.

orangecrush

(19,611 posts)
12. He is destroying institutions
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:07 AM
Nov 2017

By using them like they're his personal toys.

Once this is allowed to happen, no one can have faith in our system of government again.

Putin's game plan.

magicarpet

(14,164 posts)
21. First a coup d' etat, then a civilian junta...
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:20 AM
Nov 2017

But with military generals of questionable judgment in powerful cabinet positions.

Are we officially a Banana Republic yet ?

Rather than sham time consuming and cumbersome investigations against political enemies - why not assassination squads - they are far more expedient and leave behind far less documentation of the atrocities done to political opponents as they become intentionally and methodically expunged.

Fascistic and Theocratic government come to you at the speed of light. Fasten your seat belts - this is going to be a bumpy ride.

AlleganCarpenter

(25 posts)
17. Impeach?
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:49 AM
Nov 2017

As much as I want an end to this nightmare, I don't see impeachment as a way out. The process is long and tedious. Remember only two presidents have been impeached. None have been removed. Nixon resigned as the threat of impeachment loomed. Johnson and Clinton stayed their full terms.

The only answer is a clean sweep and that ain't gonna happen, either.

Possibly, the cabinet will show some backbone and get rid of the dunce. That move requires Pence's complicity. A move which may appreciated by his current owners but will not be of any benefit to democracy.

The best answer I can fathom is to elect Democrats across the board to continue to resist the hateful agenda until we have another shot at electing a young and vibrant Democrat in 2020 to go with an increasingly blue Congress.

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
18. Supposedly, Sessions is to "evaluate" the possibility of an appointment.
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:05 AM
Nov 2017

This is old, old shit.

There's not enough evidence to bring any charges.

Banana republic we are now.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
23. Until there are charges that are watertight. Otherwise....
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:45 AM
Nov 2017

It turns into another "Benghazi!"

I agree with that strategy.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
22. They need this "scandal" to remove Mueller. Like they needed "Benghazi" to
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:44 AM
Nov 2017

try to throw a wrench into HRC's candidacy for president.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
27. How is it different?
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:58 AM
Nov 2017

The repubs have been on a path of destruction since the Clinton impeachment and to 2000 election. Right now they are on steroids, none of this will stop if trumpft is removed, it will just slow down and have a prettier face.

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