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(86,005 posts)
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 12:13 PM Nov 2017

Wisconsin to allow toddlers to operate firearms

Daniel Dale? @ddale8 3h3 hours ago
Wisconsin Republicans and Gov. Scott Walker pass law to allow even toddlers to hunt with guns if they're accompanied by an adult; used to have to be 10 years old:


MADISON, Wis. — Children age 9 — and much younger if parents choose — will be able to deer hunt with an adult Saturday for the first time in Wisconsin, under a newly signed state law.

On Saturday, Gov. Scott Walker signed the measure to allow children younger than 10 to hunt if they are accompanied by an adult mentor who stays within arm's length of their charge. Licenses for these young hunters went on sale Monday.

State Rep. Joel Kleefisch, R-Oconomowoc, said when he took his 8-year-old daughter hunting, he had to do it in Michigan because she wasn't old enough to legally hunt in Wisconsin at that time. Kleefisch, the chairman of the Assembly Committee on Natural Resources and Sporting Heritage, said parents should be able to decide when their children are ready.

"It's not government's job to tell parents" that, said Kleefisch, as he proudly showed off hunting photos of his daughters, who are now 11 and 14.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/11/13/children-any-age-allowed-hunt-wisconsin/860429001/



...everything has gone surrealistically bad.
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Solly Mack

(90,780 posts)
5. The obituaries write themselves.
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 12:39 PM
Nov 2017

In a tragic hunting accident no one could have foreseen, a local hunter lost his life today when his 3 year old son dropped his Baby-bop hunting rifle, causing the fatal discharge. Thoughts and prayers to the family. A GoFundMe page has been set up for the care and maintenance of the rifle.



 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
6. Toddlers could operate firearms before as far as I know
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 02:01 PM
Nov 2017

Now they can hunt with them if an adult is within arm’s length according to the original post, let’s generously call that 36 inches. Am I missing something here?

Persondem

(1,936 posts)
7. Sure, let'em shoot, drive, get a job, take out a loan, have a few glasses of hooch.
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 02:25 PM
Nov 2017

Adults who think that kind of thing is okay obviously think like children so that level of craziness makes sense to them.

Consequences shmonsequences.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
13. During hunting season the local paper runs pics of 4-5 year olds with dead animals
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 04:17 PM
Nov 2017

Kid is shown with the dead deer, usually, and claims that he shot it, and the big gun is prominently displayed.

Pic goes into the scrap book.


 

Henry Krinkle

(208 posts)
10. Key words here... "if parents choose"
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 02:42 PM
Nov 2017

"It's not government's job to tell parents" that", I agree, at least they'll be learning safe
firearms handling and they'll be outdoors spending time with a parent (or parents), rather than
vegetating in their bedroom withe their Xbox.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
17. That's a creative presumption.
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 05:33 PM
Nov 2017

"at least they'll be learning safe firearms handling..."

That's a creative presumption.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
11. This does not bother me
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 02:52 PM
Nov 2017

and I say that as someone who is hugely in favor of gun control. I learned to shoot when I was just a young kid on my grandpa's farm in Africa. Done right, no harm. The real problem lies in the easy access to semi-automatic firearms, and the general gun-nut culture that seems to make a cult out of gun ownership.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
15. I hunted as early as 7.
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 04:27 PM
Nov 2017

For safety reasons I wasn't allowed to walk with the rifle, and I didn't hit anything at that age when it came time to fire, obviously.

Of course, seeing the dead eyes of a deer at a tender age may be why I've been a strict vegan for nearly 30 years. . .

VOX

(22,976 posts)
16. This would be okay IF PEOPLE WERE SMART AND SITUATIONALLY AWARE.
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 04:37 PM
Nov 2017

But the more time passes, I have serious doubts about the capacity of human beings to not do stupid shit.

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