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Republicans want life to begin at conception so ... (Original Post) ehrnst Nov 2017 OP
Probably true! MyOwnPeace Nov 2017 #1
Less abortions Soxfan58 Nov 2017 #2
There's a movement DownriverDem Nov 2017 #5
The Duggar family (19 Kids and Counting) are part of that cult. Archae Nov 2017 #13
Thats why I fucking hate that theyre given a platform for Neema Nov 2017 #17
Oh, snap. Solly Mack Nov 2017 #3
Not sure if true DownriverDem Nov 2017 #4
That is correct. Texin Nov 2017 #6
IIRC Judaism believes in breath as beginning of life... Wounded Bear Nov 2017 #11
True. The Catholic church used to believe in what was called ensoulment. stopbush Nov 2017 #9
Wonder what the knuckle Staggers will... floWteiuQ Nov 2017 #7
And what about miscarriages, etc? stopbush Nov 2017 #8
Well, that would be God's will in action there. Like mass shootings. ehrnst Nov 2017 #10
Well, god is historys greatest abortionist. stopbush Nov 2017 #16
Wasn't there an proposed act in Texas that mandated funerals for fetuses... Wounded Bear Nov 2017 #12
Or at least natural deaths that require treestar Nov 2017 #15
GOP STANDS FOR... Podkayne K Nov 2017 #14

DownriverDem

(6,232 posts)
5. There's a movement
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 10:38 AM
Nov 2017

It's called Quiver Full. It is aimed at getting more white babies born to eventually fight the liberal agenda.

Neema

(1,151 posts)
17. Thats why I fucking hate that theyre given a platform for
Thu Nov 16, 2017, 03:40 AM
Nov 2017

for their backwards ass hateful agenda. People act like they’re so wholesome and entertaining. They make me sick.

DownriverDem

(6,232 posts)
4. Not sure if true
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 10:37 AM
Nov 2017

I use to work for a law firm (paralegal) that was mostly Jewish. I was told that Jews do not believe a fetus is a person. They believe that it is not a person until the baby is born and the soul joins the body. Does anyone here know if this is true? It always made sense to me.

Texin

(2,599 posts)
6. That is correct.
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 11:13 AM
Nov 2017

I can't remember the exact timing, but I believe the timing is several days after birth.

Wounded Bear

(58,726 posts)
11. IIRC Judaism believes in breath as beginning of life...
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 12:04 PM
Nov 2017

as in the soul enters the body with the first breath. It is how Adam and Eve were created. Their bodies were formed and then God breathed life into them. That would indicate that an unborn child at any time in the gestation period is not fully human yet.

I hope my Jewish brethern and sisters will forgive me if I got that right.

stopbush

(24,397 posts)
9. True. The Catholic church used to believe in what was called ensoulment.
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 11:38 AM
Nov 2017

The dogma was that the fetus was something like a vegetable until the soul entered at the 90-day mark. An abortion occuring before that date - while not encouraged - was seen as being OK on religious grounds.

stopbush

(24,397 posts)
8. And what about miscarriages, etc?
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 11:36 AM
Nov 2017

Fully 25% of pregnancies in the USA donor come to term due to natural causes/problems. Are those naturally aborted fetuses now to be considered to be “murdered children?”

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
10. Well, that would be God's will in action there. Like mass shootings.
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 11:48 AM
Nov 2017

You just can't do anything about God....

stopbush

(24,397 posts)
16. Well, god is historys greatest abortionist.
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 01:16 PM
Nov 2017

After all, it was he who “designed” the human reproductive system.

Wounded Bear

(58,726 posts)
12. Wasn't there an proposed act in Texas that mandated funerals for fetuses...
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 12:05 PM
Nov 2017

from abortions or miscarriages a few months ago?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
15. Or at least natural deaths that require
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 12:38 PM
Nov 2017

birth and death certificates.

In fact they should issue the birth certificate at conception.

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