sickening. I live in a rural, shooting is okay county in NORCAL.

And all his neighbors knew it.

https://heavy.com/news/2017/11/kevin-janson-neal-tehama-county-school-shooter/

and not a statement on pot farmers, right?

Former deputy says Rancho Tehama Reserve a hotspot for guns, pot

By: Kristin Bender
NOV 14 2017

RANCHO TEHAMA RESERVE, Calif. - A former Tehama County Sheriff’s deputy said he wasn’t surprised about the series of deadly shootings in the rural Northern California community of Rancho Tehama Reserve Tuesday.

Kyle Pflager, who worked for the sheriff’s office for three years and now runs a Facebook page that monitors police scanner traffic, said a mix of gun-toting former felons, large-scale marijuana grows and frequent disturbances often stemming from the illegal operations, are a dangerous mix.

Pflager claims there are 50 to 100 marijuana grows within a mile of Rancho Tehama Elementary School, where two children are among the 10 wounded.

He said deputies are routinely called for disturbances in the community of 1,500, and more often than not it’s with marijuana growers.

“There’s a lots of violence out there,’’ he said. “The people out there know how to grow marijuana and they do it very well. But there’s also a lot of disturbances between people and there is usually a weapon involved. There are a ton of guns out there in the hands of the wrong people.”

The telltale signs of pot grows are clear, he said.

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http://www.ktvu.com/news/former-deputy-says-rancho-tehama-reserve-a-hotspot-for-guns-pot

If a pot grower is far right, a gun nut, afraid of government and the left then it adds up. I'm curious about the sheriff's position. I have a sibling who is a community official in Tehema co. and would definitely know the neighborhood. I'm going to ask what s/he knows. It's an important subject.

Thanks for the info.

I live in a county with a pot economy. I hear people shooting, big guns, almost daily. That it is harvest probably had more than a little to do with it. Lot of sketchballs in that industry. Lot of worries too. Prices, rip offs, and all the other stuff that goes into farming.

in NORCAL years ago. I don't even do that anymore because of the gun mainia around there and elsewhere. I figure if I want to pling cans I can use a slingshot.

It's an old thing I don't need to do. And I don’t. Visual/spacial exercise for the bored? It's like darts only stupid.

Killed the wife, killed the neighbors (unclear if it's the same neighbor that had him arrested for stabbing them, but it probably was), gets out on bail, goes on a rampage. It's classic. There are hundreds and hundreds of reports like this. Though the kill count is usually immediate family members.

Why was he not hauled in then as a public menace?

I'm pretty sure I have a great grandma or two who dealt with bad guys like this the old fashioned Wild West way, same way they dealt with rabid dogs and rattlesnakes. At least one had a sheriff-coroner friend to clean up the mess and file the proper paperwork.

Oh yeah, this is the twenty first century.

Fuck all the gun fetishists who make these mass murders possible. Fuck everyone, especially law enforcement, who is too timid to separate a "man" from his guns. (Probably because they have their own deep insecurities that someone might separate them from their guns...)

Fuck the second amendment as it is now interpreted too.

A "militia?"

My shiny ass.

Guns are here to stay.

Fo-re-ver.

It's all about selling more guns to a decreasing population of gun fetishists.

LOL

I remember being younger and attitudes towards 2nd amendment rights and exercise in this country. Gun ownership wasn't nearly as common and favorable then as it is now, and I see zero sign of it changing. In 20 years, it's done a 180.

... but gun forums are just creepy. Gun fetishes should not be normalized.

I have some understanding of utilitarian gun uses, for example hunting. I've hunted, I have family who hunt, although I myself don't care for it.

"Self defense" isn't a good reason to own a gun. Sorry.

I don't let anyone I'd care to shoot live in my head. I've never been in a situation where me holding a gun would have improved outcomes. It's not that I have no gun skills, it's not that I don't get coldly rational in difficult situations. Once the guns come out, everything is fubar. I've seen people shot. I've painted over blood stains in cheap apatments with KILZ.

Why do you care about guns? What does the bad guy living in your head look like?

The second amendment as it is now interpreted is an ugly thing, just as slavery was. It was written and it has been interpreted by fallible men.

I posted in another thread that I'd be happy to see any guns capable of more than two quick shots outlawed, including your favorite antique revolver.

My parents killed all the guns they inherited. A few may have been "collectible," but fuck it, that's a sick hobby. Bad money, bad karma.

My brother has my grandfather's deer rifle. Our grandma gave it to him. He doesn't hunt, it's decoration. His kids will probably destroy it someday; they never knew that wild west, never knew the poverty where you killed the meat on your table yourself, haven't been hunting. If I decide one day my brother is a fool, I will destroy my grandfather's deer rifle. My mom took my grandma's guns when my grandma became an obvious danger to herself and others, years after she gave my brother the rifle.

My great grandmothers were wild west. Totally bad ass. They had zero tolerance for fools with guns, especially men. The family traditions are matriarchal.

I kill guns. A Harbor Freight angle grinder makes quick work of it. A cheap-ass angle grinder is a work of art. Guns, not so much. Fuck'm.

Gun fetishists live in a shrinking bubble and the gun manufacturers egg them on, stoking their fears, appealing to their immaturity with increasingly dangerous toys.

In the real world, I can name at least ten people who asked me about getting a gun (then did) in the last few years (4 or 5). I don't know any who've given any up. The base of gun ownership grows every day. For the record, when polled, I will always state emphatically, "I own no guns".

Gun fetishes are disgusting.

Short enough for you?

If only that fervor could be channeled into something other than impotent rage, I'd be seriously concerned for my rights.

Thirty and forty year olds "courting" thirteen year olds with the permission of their mothers wasn't considered creepy by some people.

Gun fetishes are disgusting.

Yes, do be concerned about your "rights." You live in a shrinking bubble, a bubble where gun fetishes are normalized.

your concerns with civil liberties don't extend past forum lip-service.

Screwing teens and owning slaves aren't and weren't ever constitutionally enumerated and protected rights. The second amendment is. History, the courts, and the will of the American people aren't on your side. If you truly think I'm in a bubble, you need a mirror. More folks than ever own guns, and are choosing to say "No, NONE of my constitutionally protected rights are up for grabs." People have seen the way our country is headed in terms of restricting speech, voting, free association, the press, and they've said "Nope. Fuck you to death, buddy!" At the end of the day, the 2nd and the inherent right to effective self defense are civil rights. Stand against it if you choose, but know you stand against civil rights in the end.

It used to be my "right" to own slaves. We are well rid of that "right."

If anyone owns a gun for other than utilitarian reasons (hunting would be one) I believe they are living in a sick fantasy world.

It's a bizarre belief that guns have anything to do with civil rights.

Once the guns come out, everything is fubar; look at all the places in the world where people are "defending their rights" with guns. Civil war is ugly.

The sort of guy who would vote Republican because some random guy on the internet is disgusted by gun fetishes is not a Democrat.

Piss on the second amendment. It belongs in the dustbins of history. I don't need any stinking guns to defend my civil rights. Guns are in fact a threat to my civil rights.

I wonder how many domestic violence calls she made over these years

Guy had no business owning a gun. [link:http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/sister-calif-shooter-zero-business-guns-article-1.3634199|

Everyone who expresses that desire ought to be thoroughly examined by a mental health professional. Their families and friends ought to be interviewed too. If they ever did so much as kick a dog in anger, no guns...

Right?

I don't think people need to own guns anyway. We could be like Japan - if you want to hunt you check your gun out from the police.