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Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 12:12 AM Nov 2017

help me find a book for my Trump family members, thinking one by or about an admirable Dem

Biden's book?
Hillary's book?
Lawrence O'Donnell's book?
Thanks Obama?
The new photo book of Obama?

I'm reluctant to get them a book on how horrible Trump is as they could retaliate. And I don't want to talk to them about Trump. It would drive me crazy. I want them to see at least one Dem as a human being.

I've read much of Biden's book, he is a very decent man and much of the book is about Beau so it might make them think of him as human. I've not finished Hillary's book or even started O'Donnell's or "thanks Obama".

Is there something better?

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help me find a book for my Trump family members, thinking one by or about an admirable Dem (Original Post) Hamlette Nov 2017 OP
How about 'how the right lost it's mind'...or another book by a conservative about how Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #1
that's an idea, maybe the It's even worse than you think Hamlette Nov 2017 #2
No but maybe other folks have or you could check out the reviews. Probably be other Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #3
I always read the reviews Hamlette Nov 2017 #24
i'd go with this lapfog_1 Nov 2017 #4
Their parents will freak out Hamlette Nov 2017 #5
"On Tyranny," Timothy Snyder TomSlick Nov 2017 #6
I'll check it out. Maybe All the Shah's Men. Hamlette Nov 2017 #9
Since they define themselves in opposition to Dems, looks hopeless. Girard442 Nov 2017 #7
lol Hamlette Nov 2017 #8
Hold it. They actually read? Liberal In Texas Nov 2017 #10
One does read, he's actually the worst Trump supporter. Hamlette Nov 2017 #14
Try this one Freddie Nov 2017 #11
the kindle edition is only 99 cents! I'd pay that for a joke but I need paper. Hamlette Nov 2017 #15
It's more of a coffee table book Freddie Nov 2017 #23
Al Franken's book is lots of fun!!!! spanone Nov 2017 #12
that's what I was thinking too renate Nov 2017 #19
"Wherever You Go, There You Are" by Jon Kabat-Zinn flvegan Nov 2017 #13
Chris Matthews Bobby Kennedy riverwalker Nov 2017 #16
hadn't thought of that. I'm sort of pissed at Matthews lately. Hamlette Nov 2017 #18
Biden for sure. ucrdem Nov 2017 #17
yeah, I was going to get him Hillary's book but how can anyone hate Biden? Hamlette Nov 2017 #20
Promise Me, Dad ucrdem Nov 2017 #22
Here you go: lindysalsagal Nov 2017 #21
I've got lots of reading to do this month. . . Hamlette Nov 2017 #25
Save your money. Get yourself the books listed in the thread JDC Nov 2017 #26
Naomi Klein OxQQme Nov 2017 #27
Gabby Giddords' book B2G Nov 2017 #28
 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
1. How about 'how the right lost it's mind'...or another book by a conservative about how
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 12:13 AM
Nov 2017

crazy this shit is.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
2. that's an idea, maybe the It's even worse than you think
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 12:17 AM
Nov 2017

which doesn't make it about Trump. Problem is, I've not read them and I hate to give a book I've not read.

Have you read either?

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
3. No but maybe other folks have or you could check out the reviews. Probably be other
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 12:18 AM
Nov 2017

recommendations there for other books say like on Amazon.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
24. I always read the reviews
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 02:25 PM
Nov 2017

but with a grain of salt. One year I got my mom a book that was all the rage that year, The World According to Garp. The author was in town so I got her a signed copy for x-mas. when I asked her about it she said the end troubled her. As I'd not finished it I asked "what happened". She told me and I had to admit, the ending was shallow and a cheap trick. Like when the gods come down at the end of a Greek play and just fix it all up. Sort of like you didn't know what to do or where to go with these characters so, just throw in a shocker (bring in the Greek gods we say in my family).

Long story short, I'll buy books based on reviews but I'll never give a book I haven't read myself.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
5. Their parents will freak out
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 12:24 AM
Nov 2017

3 of the kids moved back in with them at one point or another. They barely got rid of the last one and feel like they can retire. Sis in law would hate me!

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
9. I'll check it out. Maybe All the Shah's Men.
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 12:44 AM
Nov 2017

about us causing the revolution that led to the Shah and ultimately current Iran. Shows the horrible things the US has done in the past to totally fuck up the planet.

Girard442

(6,080 posts)
7. Since they define themselves in opposition to Dems, looks hopeless.
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 12:37 AM
Nov 2017

How about "The Handmaid's Tale", or "Hitler: Ascent, 1889-1939"

Liberal In Texas

(13,558 posts)
10. Hold it. They actually read?
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 12:49 AM
Nov 2017

We know you do, obvious from the OP. But your family members?

I can't think of a one RWer I have know that reads. I don't mean they're illiterate, I mean they don't read books. Dosen't matter if they are non-fiction things you're looking for or fiction. Any kind of reading over time gives one a more balanced and open view of the world. More exposure to lots of possibilities.

Even the RWers I've know who bought the Limbaugh books or Coulter's never actually read them. They sat on coffee tables for a bit or in the one book shelf in the house. Your attempt to give them something worthwhile isn't going to work. Because THEY DON'T READ. They get their reinforcement of their world view from Fox and AM radio. It's a sad fact, but don't waste your time.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
14. One does read, he's actually the worst Trump supporter.
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 12:55 AM
Nov 2017

He likes history but I think he picks up what he wants. I do think that giving him left leaning books keeps him from being "in my face" about his racist views.

I'm hoping the gift will get the same result from the others. If they don't read the book, they will be afraid to bring up the issue covered because they would have to admit they didn't read it.

I give them a gift anyway. So why not make it something I want them to know.

renate

(13,776 posts)
19. that's what I was thinking too
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 01:52 AM
Nov 2017

Al is very honest about his shortcomings and mistakes, which the OP's relative might appreciate.

flvegan

(64,409 posts)
13. "Wherever You Go, There You Are" by Jon Kabat-Zinn
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 12:55 AM
Nov 2017

A little mindfulness goes a long long way, and this is a good introduction. Sort of circumvents politics.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
18. hadn't thought of that. I'm sort of pissed at Matthews lately.
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 01:50 AM
Nov 2017

in his book tour he's been saying Dems brought all the right wing hatred on themselves due to deplorables and "cling to their guns" and if they didn't say stuff like that it would be hunky dory.

I want to jump through the TV and kill him!

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
17. Biden for sure.
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 01:08 AM
Nov 2017

I'm often been surprised at the warm feelings he inspires in otherwise RW partisans. DIdn't know he had a book out but it sounds like a good bet.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
20. yeah, I was going to get him Hillary's book but how can anyone hate Biden?
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 01:53 AM
Nov 2017

I listen to books to go to sleep at night (insomniac). I woke at 5:30 am to go to the bathroom and put the audio book back on. I went to bed at 1 am so I needed more sleep but it was at the part where Beau dies and I couldn't stop listening.

Biden is quite a good writer. And oh so likable.

JDC

(10,129 posts)
26. Save your money. Get yourself the books listed in the thread
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 03:47 PM
Nov 2017

And enjoy them. If you must, get them a book on the Cold War or on Putin’s war on the world. Let them know that their inklings of getting into bed with Russia are not “better than with Democrats” as so many seem to be indicating.

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