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nolabear

(41,987 posts)
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 02:26 PM Nov 2017

What those heartless GOP "Pro-Life" bastards are doing re adoption tax credits.

I don't post much personal stuff here but I'm going to now.

My son and daughter in law just gave us our first grandson, a gorgeous, wonderful newborn that I'm certain will be the best thing that has ever happened to the world. He is EVERYTHING, to them and to us.

But if you haven't gone through the adoption process in the US today (and I know there are foster kids out there but they wanted to raise him from the get-go and have the whole life parenting experience) you have no idea how strenuous, stressful, and INCREDIBLY expensive it can be. Agencies, lawyers, home studies, portfolios, expenses for expectant mothers, expenses for travel to where the birth mother and baby are and staying in the state until all requirements are met (sometimes a month or more), time off of work, and myriad other things. They paid for it all. It can hit the $50,000 range without a blink.

And they lost one. Birth mother, at the last minute, after they were already there and had paid everything from rent to food to anything not covered by Medicare, disappeared. They have no idea what happened to the baby they had been waiting for for months. You can't be mad at her; they're not buying a baby. They're participating in one of the most stressful things someone can go through. They had no rights and they lost a ton of money.

And then they had to do it all over again.

And it was all worth it. They are ecstatic and exhausted and everything new and loving parents are. They are the objects of my incredible admiration for their ability to go through this with strength and love. I unselfconsciously take part credit for raising that man. He is going to be an incredible father.

There's some hope for recouping a little of the massive outlay for the failed adoption, but not all by any means and it's a crap shoot. The adoption tax credit for their new son will help tremendously. For MANY people not as privileged as they are it is literally the difference between giving a baby the mother chooses to have but cannot raise a loving and comfortable home and not being able to afford to. And there are lots of middle class couples in this category.

And the GOP is cavalierly, right-to-lifely, blithely getting rid of that credit. They are, for NO reason I can fathom, preventing good and loving people from making families and helping women who choose, as they say they should, to give birth rather than having abortions a chance at giving their babies lives they might not be able to.

What in the name of all that is human do they gain from this? Even "tax cuts for the rich" doesn't justify this destruction of the ability for good people to find happiness. It is inhuman, inhumane, hypocritical, incomprehensible.

We have to stop them. Lives depend on it in so many ways. Heck, our grandson's ability to have a sibling might depend on it.

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What those heartless GOP "Pro-Life" bastards are doing re adoption tax credits. (Original Post) nolabear Nov 2017 OP
My Wife And I... ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #1
I'm sorry. It's a hard thing all around. nolabear Nov 2017 #3
Water Under The Bridge! ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #5
Yes this point needs to be repeated and often. My boss adopted his two children and he's Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #2
I agree wholeheartedly. We need to push this information HARD. nolabear Nov 2017 #4

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
1. My Wife And I...
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 02:32 PM
Nov 2017

...gave up on adoption after IL baby Richard
The laws have favored natural parents to an extent that made the probable pain worse than the benefit to anyone
Now, they're fucking it up worse!
We're in our early sixties, so this doesn't affect us personally!
But this is fucked up!

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
3. I'm sorry. It's a hard thing all around.
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 02:38 PM
Nov 2017

I have a lot of sympathy for any measures that strive to protect all sides in this situation. They can be really tough and imperfect.

THIS, however, seems nothing more than unfeeling and malicious.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
2. Yes this point needs to be repeated and often. My boss adopted his two children and he's
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 02:33 PM
Nov 2017

a tRUMPer. I heard him cursing him about the 401(k) contribution reduction (that's our business) and now this....I'm telling you this guy is going to piss off his more 'normal' voters one by one.

WE NEED TO LIGHT UP THE PHONE LINES ON MONDAY. GO ON ZILLOW AND GET ZIP CODES ADDRESS FOR REPUBLICAN STATES.

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