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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOkay. Let's have some apologies.
Al was big enough to apologize when he wasn't quite sure what he might have done, but he never thought a woman would sell out other women by lying her ass off to accuse him if she didn't feel really hurt. But she did lie. She screwed women by showing that at least one republican woman would lie about abuse. We now know she lied about how she was offended by the lewdness and about the timeline of the photo.
Now will the jerks in congress who were excoriating Al apologize - both to Al and to the public?
And will we see any of the journalists who demanded a resignation - before there was any chance for rebuttal or research into the veracity of a corporate, faux-backed mouthpiece for the republican party? Marcotte?
And some of the threads on DU? Hmmmm? Anybody willing to admit to being snowed and duped? Let's see.
njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)TomSlick
(11,108 posts)I couldn't imagine that anyone was that fair minded and open. Seems he knew what an investigation would reveal.
Well played.
rzemanfl
(29,568 posts)and how he would respond.
Skittles
(153,192 posts)but calling for an investigation pretty much did the trick
Lisa0825
(14,487 posts)doggone it people like him!
omg when he did that with Michael Jordon
Stuart: Do you ever tell yourself you can't do this, you're just not good enough?
Michael: No.
Rhiannon12866
(205,941 posts)I loved Stuart Smalley!
Lisa0825
(14,487 posts)brush
(53,841 posts)Lisa0825
(14,487 posts)OceanChick
(83 posts)What's disgusting is how low the TreasonWeasels will go to take down a good man.
But they support a Pedophile, so why am I surprised?
Kingofalldems
(38,474 posts)Holy shit.
Kingofalldems
(38,474 posts)madaboutharry
(40,219 posts)When it first broke, my heart sank. Then the apologies came. Then the pile on. Then doubts crept in and you wonder if it's because of the way you feel about Al Franken and if your letting politics make excuses. And now the story changes and it looks like this was a con and that this woman is full of shit and putting on a big act. It all has me angry and upset. I have no doubt Joy is going to be all over this tomorrow. And Monday instead of talking about the evil tax bill, it is going to be about Leeann and her bullshit fakery, which is actually going to hurt women. I also hope Michelle Goldberg has to write a big apology for her asinine column in the New York Times from yesterday.
HoosierDebbie
(292 posts)spooky3
(34,475 posts)excoriated her column, though, for good reasons, and I hope she learns from them.
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)I keep looking from her as authentic as the one from Al. She lacks the courage, grace, and class that such an apology would involve.
Kingofalldems
(38,474 posts)Beartracks
(12,821 posts)Obviously, he didn't consent to this sexual assault!
Or... maybe it's NOT sexual assault because he's awake.
Or... maybe it's NOT sexual assault because he's a white male, and white males cannot, by definition, be victimized.
Or maybe, perhaps, a bunch of entertainers on a tour together get close and comfortable with eachother and just joke around like this, or like in Al & Tweeden's photo.
So... Folks gotta pick one, or ditch the double standard. If Tweeden is embarrassed by this now, just like Al was embarrassed by the other photo, then fine. But for the point-impaired: Sure, the guitar player didn't "consent," but then this isn't sexual assault. And neither was Al's fake grab to Tweeden's flak jacket.
But if it's not sexual assault, what is it? I agree this smells like a Republican counter-move to the very real Trump/Moore scandals, because if there's ANYthing the mass media can be counted on for, it's pandering to the right wing when it cooks up a "scandal" and cries foul.
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Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)she believed she had been violated, even if his own detailed recollection about an 9+ year old CSO tour was understandbly hazy.
Remarkable man. Now vindicated for his honesty and grace under fire.
Shame on the shameless RW media fever swamp.
Beartracks
(12,821 posts)At least, that I can recall.
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Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Dems/Libs need to stay away from Junk Grade Celebrities.
They are looking for attention and will destroy anyone for 15 minutes of fame/book deal from Regenery.
thbobby
(1,474 posts)Contrasted to Al Franken's virtue and intelligence. The Republican party is made of criminals - pedophiles, rapists, thieves, liars, mobsters. The Russian Mafia and the GOP - what more needs to be said?
Except Al Franken is a virtuous and intelligent person who cares about and respects people. He is not perfect, but nothing about this bullshit casts any doubt on him being a moral and outstanding person. Respectable and intelligent. No wonder Republicans hate and fear him.
TomSlick
(11,108 posts)Collin Jost just did a full attack on Sen. Franken.
Somebody ought to buy a computer for the SNL staff.
murielm99
(30,761 posts)questionseverything
(9,658 posts)they have been taking lotta pot shots at Bernie too
<shrug>
just have to remember take everything you see on the tv machine with a grain of salt because the airwaves are pretty much controlled by 1%ers
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029860272
applegrove
(118,774 posts)assume she was not honestly put out by it when she saw the picture. Seems like it was a dynamic entertainment situation where some hot women and musicians and comedians were invited to cheer up the troops with their antics. Makes a difference the context. Yes it does. Seems Franken got caught up in it. So did she obviously.
pnwmom
(108,991 posts)raccoon
(31,119 posts)Neema
(1,151 posts)I kept my mouth shut on the chance my gut was wrong, and because Al was doing the right thing regardless. But now Im pissed. Not just for Al, but for every woman who really has been assaulted or harassed and will have to fight against another kernel of doubt sewn by the actions of this one woman.
Vinca
(50,303 posts)it would show the Democratic Party is strong in their beliefs, yada, yada, yada. I disagree and I can sum it up in 2 words: David Vitter. What Vitter did was a million times worse than this and he pretty much said "fuck you" to his critics and the GOP stood behind him. Not only was Vitter elected again, the whole Republican Party has gained seats across the country and even put a moron in the White House. Why? They don't wimp out. No one went on television and went boohoo, Dave has to go. Democrats need to be strong and support Franken because a lousy joke is not the same as wearing diapers at your hooker's place.
questionseverything
(9,658 posts)Vinca
(50,303 posts)oasis
(49,406 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,474 posts)Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)I was thinking that the posters here on DU were going to be Democrats.
Skittles
(153,192 posts)plenty of DUers fell for that anti-Franken garbage
Kingofalldems
(38,474 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Its still on the front page, and I find it disturbing.
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)check how many of those posters originate from a Eastern European address.