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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRape in the storage room. Groping at the bar. Why is the restaurant industry so terrible for women?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/rape-in-the-storage-room-groping-at-the-bar-why-is-the-restaurant-industry-so-terrible-for-women/2017/11/17/54a1d0f2-c993-11e7-b0cf-7689a9f2d84e_story.html
If youre a woman, what makes a restaurant dangerous isnt the sharp knives or the hot griddle: Its an isolated area of the kitchen, like the dry storage pantry.
Thats where Miranda Rosenfelt, 31, then a cook at Jackies restaurant in Silver Spring, was headed one day seven years ago to help out with inventory, at the request of one of her direct supervisors, who she says had been harassing her for months. When she walked into the narrow basement room, far from the bustle of the kitchen, she turned around to find him standing there with his pants on the floor, and his penis in his hands, blocking her exit from the basement, she said.
I felt cornered, and trapped, and scared, and what ended up happening was that he got me to perform oral sex, and it was horrible. And the whole time he was saying things like, Oh, Ive always wanted to do this. Her instinct was not to do anything, and wait for it to be over. Because thats what will make me the safest.
Or maybe the dangerous place is the walk-in cooler. Thats where chef Maya Rotman-Zaid, 36, says she was cornered once about 12 years ago, by a co-worker who tried to grope her. But after years of working in kitchens with handsy, misbehaving men, she had remembered an anecdote from Anthony Bourdains Kitchen Confidential, in which the famous chef struck back after being grabbed repeatedly by a colleague.
If youre a woman, what makes a restaurant dangerous isnt the sharp knives or the hot griddle: Its an isolated area of the kitchen, like the dry storage pantry.
Thats where Miranda Rosenfelt, 31, then a cook at Jackies restaurant in Silver Spring, was headed one day seven years ago to help out with inventory, at the request of one of her direct supervisors, who she says had been harassing her for months. When she walked into the narrow basement room, far from the bustle of the kitchen, she turned around to find him standing there with his pants on the floor, and his penis in his hands, blocking her exit from the basement, she said.
I felt cornered, and trapped, and scared, and what ended up happening was that he got me to perform oral sex, and it was horrible. And the whole time he was saying things like, Oh, Ive always wanted to do this. Her instinct was not to do anything, and wait for it to be over. Because thats what will make me the safest.
Or maybe the dangerous place is the walk-in cooler. Thats where chef Maya Rotman-Zaid, 36, says she was cornered once about 12 years ago, by a co-worker who tried to grope her. But after years of working in kitchens with handsy, misbehaving men, she had remembered an anecdote from Anthony Bourdains Kitchen Confidential, in which the famous chef struck back after being grabbed repeatedly by a colleague.
I've been to Jackie's several times when I lived in Silver Spring. I've probably seen Miranda Rosenfelt before. This stuff happens at any restaurant anywhere. My sister works at a restaurant and would probably stab the guy with her high heels. She also has some self defense training.
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Rape in the storage room. Groping at the bar. Why is the restaurant industry so terrible for women? (Original Post)
IronLionZion
Nov 2017
OP
Ask Palin for the cure, you ask for a hostile work environment, Palin gives you one
Not Ruth
Nov 2017
#2
IronLionZion
(45,484 posts)1. The sexual-harassment epidemic has been diagnosed. Whats the cure?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/the-sexual-harassment-epidemic-has-been-diagnosed-whats-the-cure/2017/11/17/150b34d8-c8a8-11e7-b0cf-7689a9f2d84e_story.html?utm_term=.4e99ba6a8202
A man walks into a conference room, where two women are planning the companys booth at an upcoming trade show. (Sit tight, this is eventually going to turn into a story about gender, despair and whether our society is completely busted.) Hey girls, we need to prep for this show, the man says. So unless the plan is to stop traffic with thigh-high boots and halter tops, were going to need strong messaging and branding.
The above scene is from one of those workplace sexual harassment training videos you have probably seen if youve had a job. Specifically, its from a California-based firm called Emtrain, which specializes in such trainings and which, to facilitate open discussion, encourages clients to code inappropriate behaviors as yellow (problematic), orange (moderate), or red (toxic). The thinking being, its easier to say, Oof, Jerry, that joke was a little orange, than it is to say, Jerry, thats harassment.
Anyway. The video above is coded by Emtrain as orange. But in recent weeks, Emtrains founder, Janine Yancey, has noticed something. When viewers watch the video which goes on to show the male boss ranking the hotness of female workers they can submit questions and comments. Women are writing in saying, thats red, thats red! Yancey says. And men are saying, is that really orange? It looks yellow to me.
Yancey once practiced employment law; she thinks in terms of legalities. She knows juries in the past wouldnt have thought of that incident, in singularity, as toxic. But we dont really have a mechanism to figure out how the current news cycle might impact juries, she says. In other words, we cant figure out how behaviors that once were considered yellow or even green, a healthy work environment can transition to red.
A man walks into a conference room, where two women are planning the companys booth at an upcoming trade show. (Sit tight, this is eventually going to turn into a story about gender, despair and whether our society is completely busted.) Hey girls, we need to prep for this show, the man says. So unless the plan is to stop traffic with thigh-high boots and halter tops, were going to need strong messaging and branding.
The above scene is from one of those workplace sexual harassment training videos you have probably seen if youve had a job. Specifically, its from a California-based firm called Emtrain, which specializes in such trainings and which, to facilitate open discussion, encourages clients to code inappropriate behaviors as yellow (problematic), orange (moderate), or red (toxic). The thinking being, its easier to say, Oof, Jerry, that joke was a little orange, than it is to say, Jerry, thats harassment.
Anyway. The video above is coded by Emtrain as orange. But in recent weeks, Emtrains founder, Janine Yancey, has noticed something. When viewers watch the video which goes on to show the male boss ranking the hotness of female workers they can submit questions and comments. Women are writing in saying, thats red, thats red! Yancey says. And men are saying, is that really orange? It looks yellow to me.
Yancey once practiced employment law; she thinks in terms of legalities. She knows juries in the past wouldnt have thought of that incident, in singularity, as toxic. But we dont really have a mechanism to figure out how the current news cycle might impact juries, she says. In other words, we cant figure out how behaviors that once were considered yellow or even green, a healthy work environment can transition to red.
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)2. Ask Palin for the cure, you ask for a hostile work environment, Palin gives you one
IronLionZion
(45,484 posts)4. Armed female soldiers with combat training have been sexually harassed
and it happens to conservative gun toting women all the time.
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)6. And 6 foot 7 inch 380lb professional wrestlers get sexually harassed too, but it is atypical
https://www.queerty.com/wwe-impresario-vince-mcmahon-accused-of-demanding-sexual-favors-from-male-wrestlers-20141124
WWE Impresario Vince McMahon Accused Of Demanding Sexual Favors From Male Wrestlers
By Graham Gremore November 24, 2014 at 3:11pm
Former WWE pro wrestler James Harris hasnt had it easy in recent years. At 67, 380 pounds, he was once known as Kamala the Ugandan Giant, one of the most feared contenders in professional wrestling. Today, hes a double amputee who struggles to pay his bills.
After losing both limbs to diabetes a few years ago, 64-year-old Harris has made his living building wooden chairs by hand in his garage, then autographing each one with his Kamala signature and selling them online for $150 a pop.
I wish things had worked out better for me, he said recently. I believe the reason I got done that way is because Im just a poor boy from down south in Mississippi. If I had been a better talker you have to negotiate that probably wouldve helped me.
But Harris isnt looking for pity.
I dont want people to feel sorry for me, he said. Because Im still Kamala.
Now, Harris says hes hearing up to release his memoir called Kamala Speaks, and he plans on spilling all the dirt about the pro-wrestling industry.
In a recent interview with 1Wrestling radio, Harris gave listeners a taste of what they can expect from his book, talking about behind-the-scenes corruption, failed drug tests that were covered up, and sexual harassment allegations against WWEs majority owner Vince McMahon
WWE Impresario Vince McMahon Accused Of Demanding Sexual Favors From Male Wrestlers
By Graham Gremore November 24, 2014 at 3:11pm
Former WWE pro wrestler James Harris hasnt had it easy in recent years. At 67, 380 pounds, he was once known as Kamala the Ugandan Giant, one of the most feared contenders in professional wrestling. Today, hes a double amputee who struggles to pay his bills.
After losing both limbs to diabetes a few years ago, 64-year-old Harris has made his living building wooden chairs by hand in his garage, then autographing each one with his Kamala signature and selling them online for $150 a pop.
I wish things had worked out better for me, he said recently. I believe the reason I got done that way is because Im just a poor boy from down south in Mississippi. If I had been a better talker you have to negotiate that probably wouldve helped me.
But Harris isnt looking for pity.
I dont want people to feel sorry for me, he said. Because Im still Kamala.
Now, Harris says hes hearing up to release his memoir called Kamala Speaks, and he plans on spilling all the dirt about the pro-wrestling industry.
In a recent interview with 1Wrestling radio, Harris gave listeners a taste of what they can expect from his book, talking about behind-the-scenes corruption, failed drug tests that were covered up, and sexual harassment allegations against WWEs majority owner Vince McMahon
pnwest
(3,266 posts)3. 18 years in restauranting...I could regale
you for hoouuurs with stories of the harassment and abuse I endured, and saw others endure. I was very young when I started, and I thought thats just the way the world worked: if you want to keep your job, you have to put up with it and deflect as best you can. Had I only known.... Id be a very wealthy restaurant chain owner now. Anyone remember Chi-Chis? Early 80s, it was insane what went on.
IronLionZion
(45,484 posts)5. It's very disappointing that people come to accept it as normal
when it happens at a young age and people don't know any better. But at least there's hope that now there's a bright spotlight shined on it everywhere with people sharing their stories.
Irish_Dem
(47,196 posts)7. What industry is safe for women? nt