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So, Donnie may have been a Russian asset since 1986. (Original Post) deminks Nov 2017 OP
Enlightening article... N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2017 #1
Borrow money from Russian billionaires and become an asset. sarcasmo Nov 2017 #2
Politico is MSM. You mean the boob tube, right? Hortensis Nov 2017 #3
Paul Manafort was Trump's Campaign Chairman a Russian asset. I think Trump is the same. rockfordfile Nov 2017 #4
Seems like Rump could have been a very easy chump. Hortensis Nov 2017 #5
Trump Casinos found guilty of lax laundry controls in 90s when they lost money in casino gold rush. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2017 #6
And 4 years later he was money laundering through his New Jersey Casino Farmer-Rick Nov 2017 #7
"The man is a criminal just waiting for a crime" PatSeg Nov 2017 #14
The man is a criminal waiting for.... SergeStorms Nov 2017 #27
Very Good Point Farmer-Rick Nov 2017 #28
Maybe I've read too many spy novels... ewagner Nov 2017 #8
Their patience PatSeg Nov 2017 #15
Of particular interest was the fact that Pravda made no Enoki33 Nov 2017 #19
Yes PatSeg Nov 2017 #22
Excellent point n/t ewagner Nov 2017 #26
I totally read that as "Russian ass-head," which is equally accurate Orrex Nov 2017 #9
If youre rich, you can do anything. mountain grammy Nov 2017 #10
'Donald, I think I must pee now, Da?" orangecrush Nov 2017 #11
There must be a reason for bucolic_frolic Nov 2017 #12
So what can reporters ask him greymattermom Nov 2017 #13
K&R! KPN Nov 2017 #16
Mueller's on it! kentuck Nov 2017 #17
"flattery" moondust Nov 2017 #18
And Melania was arranged to meet Trump in 1998. dalton99a Nov 2017 #20
When this report is read against the background of what dotard has Enoki33 Nov 2017 #21
Russians have been grooming Trump for many many many years BoneyardDem Nov 2017 #23
and there are some who think that melania is actually his handler. would not suprise me. niyad Nov 2017 #24
Not his handler. Maybe his minder. hedda_foil Nov 2017 #25

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. Seems like Rump could have been a very easy chump.
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 09:48 AM
Nov 2017

Just schmooze him up a bit and then "compromat" as many times as needed. That personality evaluation! I'd love to see that one.

A bunch of "prominent" Americans visited Russia in that period, and wouldn't it be interesting to see the various FBI files on that? Also not so prominent, like my aunt. She found Russia fascinating but in pretty poor state overall. Not long after, the Soviet Union collapsed.

One of the prominents who visited Russia, in 1988, was, of course, Vermont Mayor Bernie Sanders. It goes without saying that he would have drawn their attention. Wonder if he lectured KGB agents on corruption? He was of course on his honeymoon, as well as part of his delegation visiting the Russian city that he and Burlington formed a sister-city connection with not long before. Sanders also formed sister-city relationships with cities in the West Bank and Nicaragua.

"Burlington had a foreign policy because, as progressives, we understood that we all live in one world." -- Bernie Sanders

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,027 posts)
6. Trump Casinos found guilty of lax laundry controls in 90s when they lost money in casino gold rush.
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 10:06 AM
Nov 2017

Laundering Russian money, who were frequent high rollers.

All the other casinos made gobs of money. The supposed master businessman tRump went bankrupt.

Farmer-Rick

(10,197 posts)
7. And 4 years later he was money laundering through his New Jersey Casino
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 10:11 AM
Nov 2017

The man is a criminal just waiting for a crime.

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
8. Maybe I've read too many spy novels...
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 10:26 AM
Nov 2017

but this sounds like another one....

the thing that impresses me is Soviet Intelligence's patience...to cultivate agents as "moles" and wait years upon years for them to rise to positions that are useful to the Russia.

They did it to British Intelligence in the 50s and 60s...recruiting a student from Cambridge in the 30s and 40s who became a high ranking official in MI5 ...there is a statue of him in Moscow.

If this article is true...KGB hasn't changed their methods.

on edit: Here's the Wikipedia version of the British incident:

Harold Adrian Russell "Kim" Philby (1 January 1912 – 11 May 1988[1]) was a high-ranking member of British intelligence who worked as a double agent before defecting to the Soviet Union in 1963. He served as both an NKVD and KGB operative.[2]

In 1963, Philby was revealed to be a member of the spy ring now known as the Cambridge Five, the other members of which were Donald Maclean, Guy Burgess, Anthony Blunt and, possibly, John Cairncross. Of the five, Philby is believed to have been most successful in providing secret information to the Soviet Union. His activities were moderated only by Joseph Stalin's fears that he was a triple agent providing Soviet intelligence to British authorities.[3] Philby was an Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE) from 1946 to 1965, and he was awarded the Order of Lenin in 1965.

PatSeg

(47,551 posts)
15. Their patience
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 11:22 AM
Nov 2017

and long range thinking is rather astounding. That is what impressed me reading the article. Too often we underestimate their capabilities.

I saw a BBC series about the Cambridge Five not long ago - "Cambridge Spies". Fascinating story.

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
19. Of particular interest was the fact that Pravda made no
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 12:25 PM
Nov 2017

mention of the carefully crafted dotard’s visit. Much like the dog that did not bark.

PatSeg

(47,551 posts)
22. Yes
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 01:10 PM
Nov 2017

They are real masters at this. Some of these stories are far better than fictional spy novels and sometimes less believable.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
13. So what can reporters ask him
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 10:55 AM
Nov 2017

that will drive him crazy, cause a public melt down? Every press event should include a question like that.
Also, Mueller must know this by now.

moondust

(20,002 posts)
18. "flattery"
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 12:07 PM
Nov 2017

The Soviets were known for their long-term thinking with 5-year plans and all--as opposed to the short-term quarterly profit-seeking of the capitalists. So yeah, not too hard to believe that they easily read this Trump guy and his craving for flattery and did whatever they could to cultivate his political ambitions as a long-term project that would pay off big time someday.

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
21. When this report is read against the background of what dotard has
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 12:42 PM
Nov 2017

said and his actions since ‘winning’ the election, it seems early warnings that there were Russian assets in the Whitehouse by posters here may not have been hyperbole. Certainly the KGB/FSB would also have targeted Kushner, and possibly Miller. The great unknown is how successful were they?

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
23. Russians have been grooming Trump for many many many years
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 01:21 PM
Nov 2017

it's how they roll, it's how they are, it's what they do. Not a big secret. I highly doubt they would have rolled out this aggressive campaign to help Trump win the Presidency,on a whim, on a moments notice. Putin has had training in this.

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