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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAt least 25 reasons why DU needs a separate forum on Trump/Russia
@SethAbramson makes the case on Twitter so much better than I have here on DU.
There are so many threads to this Trump/Russia investigation it is important to keep them straight, but also to realize why it is not going to be over anytime soon. For these reasons, again, I think it is vital to have a separate Forum or Group on Trump/Russia matters in order to keep DUers up to date and be able to absorb the sheer volume of information coming at us. Let GD be used for all of the other horrors of the Trump administration- everything from horrible legislation, judicial nominations etc. to the jokes and cartoons and click bait posts that we see. Some of us don't have all day to peruse DE for both breaking info but also deep analysis - we need to more effectively access current info so we can stay abreast of events. I've talked with committed Dems recently, some of whom have "tuned out" because of the sheer volume of info - I need to find ways to keep engaged myself, but also to effectively keep them engaged by giving them concise updates or vital information.
Seth outlined these 25 different aspects of this investigation recently on Twitter. They were in multiple tweets so cutting and pasting a bit from each one (not all in one tweet so rules about copying from one article should not apply).
" 1)Hacking of DNC/Clinton (Guccifer, Stone, FancyBear et. al.)
(2) Illicit Sanctions Negotiations (Page, Sessions, Papadopoulos, Kislyak et. al.)
(3) Clandestine GOP Platform Changes (Gordon, Manafort et. al.)
(4) Clandestine Foreign Agents in Government A (Flynn, Gulen, Turkish officials et. al.)
(5) Clandestine Foreign Agents in Government B (Manafort, Gates, Deripaska et. al.)
(6) Data Analytics Collusion and Social Media Propaganda (Kushner, Mercer, Cambridge Analytica et. al)
(7) Obstruction of Justice A [Comey Firing] (Trump, Yates, Sessions, Miller, Comey, Lavrov, Kislyak, Hicks et. al.)
(8) Obstruction of Justice B [Trump Jr. Statement] (Trump, Trump Jr., Miller, Hicks et. al.)
(9) Making False Statements and/or Perjury A (Sessions)
(10) Making False Statements and/or Perjury B (Flynn)
(11) Making False Statements and/or Perjury C (Kushner)
(12) Making False Statements and/or Perjury D (Page)
(13) Making False Statements and/or Perjury E (Papadopoulos)
(14) Money Laundering (Manafort, Gates, et. al.)
(15) Espionage [Putin Backchannel] (Kushner, Flynn, Kislyak, et. al.)
(16) Clandestine Trump Tower Moscow Agreement [2013 to 2017] (Trump, Aras Agalarov, Emin Agalarov, Michael Cohen, Felix Sater, Kremlin officials et. al.)
(17) Clandestine Trump-Putin Meeting Plans (Clovis, Papadopoulos, Dearborn, Page, Mifsud, Millian et. al.)
(18) Clandestine Outreach to Pro-Putin Ukrainian Officials (Manafort, Deripaska et. al.)
(19) Possible Trump-Rosneft Collusion (Steele, Page, Lavrov, Peskov et. al.)
(20) Kremlin Kompromat [Trump Indiscretions] (Trump, Schiller, Agalarov, Ritz Moscow staff, Trump org employees, Ritz visitors, Sarka et. al.)
(21) Kremlin Kompromat [HRC/Ukraine] (Veselnitskaya, Kaveladze, Akhmetshin, Goldstone, Emin Agalarov, Kushner, Manafort, Trump Jr.)
(22) Clandestine Trump-Putin Meeting Plans B (Torshin, Rogozin, Clarke, NRA et. al.)
(23) Emoluments Violations [Russian Investors] (Eric Trump, Don Jr., Ivanka Trump, Kushner, Dodson, Gorka et. al.)
(24) WikiLeaks (Trump, Assange, Trump Jr., Kushner, Rohrabacher et. al.)
(25) Suspicious Contacts in Other Nations (Papadopoulos, Kammenos, and Putin in Greece; Gordon, Page, Orbán, Finkelstein, and Schmitz in Hungary; Papadopoulos in the UK and Israel)
And these are just 25 of many, many more investigative angles that the FBI has had to pursue."
Eliot Rosewater
(31,113 posts)I would also like a separate thread (not forum, I guess, which makes my obnoxious attempt at humor miss the mark) titled:
"List your reasons why you wont vote for a Democrat in 2018 here"
and it better be the quietest god damn thread on earth
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)and it better be the quietest god damn thread on earth
I can follow the drift regardless of the flow.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)mopinko
(70,175 posts)have you posted it in ata?
Justice
(7,188 posts)niyad
(113,498 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,345 posts)Justice
(7,188 posts)no traction.
marble falls
(57,140 posts)Justice
(7,188 posts)Justice
(7,188 posts)Still have lots of duplicate posts in GD because posts fall off first page so quickly due to all of the activity.
Jokes, clickbait posts are given same priority as posts on tax cuts, sexual harassment and TrumpRussia