That has got to be more than a ticket

That information can be found at the link.

I don't visit RS much in the last few years. But they were my go to site before I found DU and before Huffpo came on. A lot of kudo's should go out to them as one of the first well produced liberal point of view new web sites. They were particularly important in Bush's first years.

RS takes a WaPo article and takes large chunks of it and calls it their own essentially.

DU sticks to acceptable quoting limits (4 paragraph max) and links to original article.

And as mentioned elsewhere, the site has a fair bit of malware on it as well.

It seems like RS does have links, only they are embedded in the story. And I never got the 4 paragraph rule anyways. Also, its easy to accuse any site of having malware, and either way its not anything they are directly responsible for anyways.

The good that they have done far outweighs any journalist etiquette faux pas. We have so few liberal media outlets compared to the dominance of RW media that get all the prime time that we have to overlook these minor formatting misdemeanors to support the greater good IMO.

Because they have the best headlines!!!

It does not mention what she will be charged with. At that speed, it should not be just a ticket, but reckless driving charges.

No need to take it personally.

Let's see Jeanine Pirro---oh yeah she DEMANDED that Hillary be locked up a couple weeks ago. Now I get it.

This is how they usually are in a lot of topics. I keep thinking it's just the tone I'm reading it in but I don't think it is.

Sorry, but that was a funny.

Thanks for pointing it out though, here, in "this" topic.

Her ass should have been locked up.

.... at a local NY upstate liquor mart and she heard they only had a few bottles left.

What does she drive a Porsche Carrera Cabriolet ?

Will she be hiring a chauffeur to drive for her the next three years while her driving license is under suspension ?

Safe driving rules and laws are for the little people not big shots like her.

Hang the witch.

she had to be leaving every car on the road in the dust. Wait until she gets her new rate from her insurance company.

care what type of car she was in -- she would have noticed that she was driving at an exceptionally fast speed and changing lanes, etc would have been exceptionally dangerous.

if you routinely drive 110 mph....

I got stopped doing 90 a few years back.
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That road is hypnotic.

i was doing 80, + i did take her to 100 just to see. tried to keep her to 80, but boy did she like faster. yeah busted. doing 90. oops. but never 119. i think that was mid 80's. old car. i loved that car.

She was quiet and rode like silk and you're right, I had to really had to really watch my speed!

There's a stretch of I-20 East that is completely straight for miles and miles. I was racing back home. I also had loud music on. I happened to catch a glimpse of my speedometer showing 110+ mph. It was around 3am. No other cars on the road. I'm pretty sure I passed a cop, who opted to just move out the way. I was lucky.

I recall driving in upstate NY on a beautiful fall day. No other cars. It was wealthy country, and we stopped to see FDRs house along that road.

Still no excuses for that kind of speed. 80s maybe.

According to the article.

As I know you've been aware over the last weeks, were she of a different stripe this thread would be very different.

away on her death bed. They wouldn't care
Well, except if she pissed them off insisting there was a reason and it was an emergency, then she could get shot instead of locked up

I get it.

Nice values hierarchy. What would you think about this if it was a man going to visit his sick father?

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"DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM???!!!"

She has that mentality, you just know it.

She blames Hillary for everything else

That is an unbelievable speed -- if the speed limit was 70 (which is high unless she was on the freeway) she still would have been driving fifty mph above the speed limit (105 in a 55 zone, which is insane), and she never would have been able to stop if she came up on a family driving at say 76 mph (I used to live in LA, and we have family friends who've driven on the autobahn, and super high speed crashes do incredible damage that usually result in the deaths of people in any cars around the primary idiot driver).


One tiny slip of the wheel or a pothole or tire blowout would have been fatal for her, any passengers, and anyone around her as there is no way to control a car at that speed if any change needs to be made relatively quickly (and no amount of airbags, etc are going to save the occupants). What incredibly reckless behavior!! The


And this woman spends all of her time condemning others for not living responsible lives...

and up into New York State north of Albany. Virginia has signs that read "Speeding over 80 MPH considered reckless driving" and most of the NY Thruway system is max 65 MPH

Many if not most states have a "Criminal Speeding" statute.

She is likely to have her license suspended and is looking at well over $1200 in fines and fees

I'm not sure what the going rate is these days but several years ago, a friend of mine spent $8000 fighting a reckless driving/speeding charge in Virginia -- the cheapest he could find -- and since she's looking at possible jail time, I doubt that Pirro will go cheap.

She will hire the local traffic court lawyer who golfs with the judge and the cop. The lawyer will collect a hefty fee of approximately what the fine should be. Of which he will donate a portion to the police widows and orphans fund. In return, the court will change the violation to 15mph over and a busted tail light. It is a tale as old as time.

Those questions are addressed.

Reckless driving at the very least.

At 120 mph, you are traveling at 176 feet per second, so you'll travel about an additional 132 feet before you start applying brakes. Total stopping distance = 855 feet at 120 mph.

What an ass.

and indeed its quadratic and not linear. However, if you have a high performance car, the efficiency of your brakes is well above what this average number suggests . Still, its reckless and should not be done.

B: It would depend on the tires
C: It would depend on the type of surface & weather conditions

D: She has a shitload of money so I imagine whatever she was driving is easily capable of stopping from 120 within 250 feet.

https://www.random-science-tools.com/physics/stopping-distance.htm

This calculator comes up with 824 feet.

The tires, pressure, weight and brake system are all key, but cars can decelerate only up to a point and the body can only handle so much g-force before the driver passes out.

https://www.quora.com/What-can-be-the-maximum-deceleration-during-braking-a-car

So, we need reaction time, speed of car, max deceleration (which depends on tires, weight, brake system, road surface, etc..)

First assume the max that is in that quota article, i.e 3 g's of deceleration:

120 mph is 120*1.609/3600/1000=53.64 m/s

3g is 9.81*3=29.43 m/s/s

deceleration time would be 53.64/29.43=1.82 seconds which yields a distance of 1.82*1.82*29.43=97.87 meters

if you are a crack F1 pilot, say your reaction time is 0.1 seconds. This adds another 0.1*53.64=5.36 meters before you stop.

so all in all, you would stop in 103.14 meters which is 338 ft.

Now Pirro is not a crack F1 pilot so her reaction time may be 1 second (typical of what they use for these estimates for normal people) and her car will decelerate at maybe 1.5 g instead of 3 because its not a F1 car.

Plugging in those numbers, you get a stopping distance of 817 ft which is not far from what this online calculator gives.

Conclusion: Even if you are a RW pundit you can't escape physics!

stop much sooner if you hit something!

LOCK HER UP!!!!

F**king menace to society!

have easily killed multiple people if any drivers were anywhere in her way as she would not have been able to stop and at that speed she would have been spinning and rolling all over the freeway (I have no idea if she was even on a freeway -- I am guessing).

within inches from hitting EVERYTHING

Hit a school bus at that speed....damn.

which will be an automatic suspension;

https://newyorkspeedingfines.com/

At 120 MPH or over he would need to transport her, and who would want her nasty a** in their car.

just stupid?

Well she's a fux 'news' knuckle dragger so stupid is a given I suppose.

Every time she's on TV, she looks and sounds completely shitfaced.

That’s about 20 miles from here. You know. Where Tioga Downs Casino is located.

It's reckless driving when you go that fast. Any collision at that speed is likely to be fatal and very likely to involve not just the driver.

if anyone asks, tell them that was a deliberate "typo" because that's absolutely hillarious!

Of course it's a typo since the i is close to u on the keyboard. Pretty funny none the less.

refuse to admit error!
double down on the mistake!
never apologize!

you will *never* make a good republican!

blame Liberals, Clintons, Obama, Franken, Dems . . . .

Obamacare or......

Lock'er up.

N.Y.'s fastest drivers rarely face toughest penalties

http://www.pressconnects.com/story/news/crime/2014/08/23/ny-speeding-penalties/14488757/

An analysis of data on 6 million traffic citation convictions from 2010 to 2013 shows the state's most dangerous speeders are usually allowed to plead to lesser charges.

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An analysis for this report of state data on 6 million traffic citation convictions from 2010 to 2013 shows the state's most dangerous speeders are usually allowed to plead to lesser charges. In the process, they avoid the harsh penalties set aside for the state's most reckless speeders.

The analysis found:

• Out of 8,056 tickets issued to drivers accused of traveling in excess of 40 miles per hour above the speed limit — enough to lead to the suspension or revocation of a driver's license — 82 percent resulted in convictions with either lower speeds or lesser charges, ranging from inadequate headlights to jaywalking. Most were going more than 100 mph.

• The charge of excessive speeding led to the suspension or revocation of the driver's license in only 26 of those 8,056 cases.

• In more than two dozen cases, the same vehicle was caught speeding at more than 40 mph over the speed limit multiple times in the four-year span.

On the other hand, speed limits have to be the most violated laws in the country. I routinely have to drive between 70-75 on I-91 In CT to keep up with traffic and still get passed by State Troopers, without their flashing lights on, going 10-15 mph faster. I still think speed laws are more about revenue generation than safety.

Anyone remember the fit the Reich Wingers threw when Al Gore's son was caught speeding in a Prius?

The cop probably cut her a break. Lock her up, she needs to do at least 6 months for this.

In a taxi on the autobahn....

And been passed by a station wagon

However, there are some very long straight roads in rural Illinois with zero traffic .....

that fast on the 5 would be in mortal danger and of course they'd kill everyone around them if they changed lanes at the wrong second or if they came up on a car driving 90 mph changing lanes. Or if a flock of birds hit their windshield -- this actually happened to a friend of mine when we were in college. He nearly died, and he wasn't driving anywhere near 119 mph.


I don't really understand the jokes some DUers are making about this idiot driving fifty mph over the speed limit in New York. Driving that fast is incredibly dangerous. She has shouted for the past two years that Hillary should be in jail, and she is the first to condemn others for "infractions" -- if the driver were a black man driving 119 mph she'd be screaming that he should be in jail and lose his license permanently. She was a judge, and she would have had zero empathy (but in her own case I guess she'd forgive herself)

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/15/travel/driving-the-dazed-and-the-bored-on-i-5.html

There are no towns or cities on the main stretch of the Five, unless you count the small fast-food oases that materialize every 50 miles, and no historical sites to stop at. There aren't even any billboards. Trees are an exotic rarity, and the occasional distant dwellings are few and far between. The only notable landmarks are a vegetation-free section of the Tehachapi Mountains that is quickly left behind outside Los Angeles and an enormous cattle ranch in the middle of the desert that exudes a methane stench for miles. The radio segues into evangelistic stations and cellphone signals fizzle.

Mr. Troy usually relies on a collection of hip-hop and electronica CD's to keep him awake. Sometimes he also uses mental puzzles. ''It's an interesting tool,'' he said. ''I'll pose a problem -- a relationship problem or something at work -- and have hours to work it out.'' There is, at least, the luxury of unbroken time for thought.

Other commuters on the Five have their own routines. Some seek intellectual stimulation with audio books and language tapes. A few risk the companionship of strangers in need of rides whom they find through online bulletin boards like www.craigslist.com. Mr. Leibel brings a camera and snaps digital photographs of the road from behind the wheel; he now boasts a vast collection of pictures of odd freeway signs and the rear ends of trucks. Still, he finds the drive so hypnotic, he said, that he recently found he couldn't recall whether he was driving north or south.

Officially, the speed limit on Interstate 5 is 70 miles an hour: a driver who obeys the law will make it between the two big cities in less than six hours. But most, in their rush to get back to civilization, fly up and down the Five at speeds surpassing 90 miles an hour, weaving between lumbering trucks. The most reckless brag that they can make it from Los Angeles to San Francisco in four hours, less time and hassle than it would take to fly, if you count the trips to and from the airports and a lengthy check-in

''If you're in the fast lane you have to break the speed limit by at least 15 miles an hour if you want to keep up,'' said Kurt Noble, an Internet consultant who, after moving his family to San Francisco, found that the Five made it cheap and easy to maintain his business in Los Angeles. Mr. Noble has focused dark thoughts on truck drivers who slow down traffic. ''I'd imagine cruel contraptions, like a 12-foot device that could be hung down that would prevent trucks from moving into the fast lane,'' he said.

Between the trucks and the speed demons and the lack of visible highway patrol officers, I-5 can be a very dangerous highway. All along the road, you can see skid marks from quickly applied brakes and scorched grass from car fires. In the winter, thick fog often triggers huge pileups; in the summer, scorching temperatures cause overheated engines and blown tires, the remains of which litter the sides of the highway like rubber roadkill.

''It's really easy to go 100 without thinking about it; it's so flat, and so hot, you just space out,'' said Colette Sandstedt, a Los Angeles-based film student who drives home monthly to visit her friends and family in San Francisco. She has had two nightmare experiences in her old pickup truck on I-5 in the last year; first her engine caught fire; weeks later, she blew a tire.

It's a feedlot


https://goo.gl/maps/kUrth3mkAYT2

There are several large dairy operations in the southern valley that have sprung up in the last decade and if the wind is right, they tend to blanket the road with that "happy cows live in California" smell. But they aren't "ranches". In fact most of the large grazing paddocks are on the west side of I 5 and don't smell at all.

Also, damned little garlic is grown in the central valley. The "Garlic Capital of the World" is Gilroy, further west or The 5, on US 101

Stay out of the fast lane, slow poke!

I get nervous going 5-10 miles over whatever the speed limit. I'd rather be late than dead no matter what.

i'd bet most of those rapid-fire talking heads are on meth or some form of amphetamines.

it would explain a lot, actually....

I get uncomfortable at about 78 mph and at 80 mph I scare myself.

Conservatives. The law only applies when they think it should. Endangering complete strangers? OK, if you don't know them personally. What an excuse. Like she would allow that for anyone else.

Even my Grandparents when they got close to the end my parents wouldn't have driven like that.

Unlike New Jersey, New York State is not predisposed to plea deals.

I don't want someone driving 119 MPH under obvious stress, if that's even true.

on that road? I drive 5 under, except this time of year because of the deer breeding season I go 10 under.

Stopped at a rest area once and a guy came up to me and asked if I knew what the speed limit was. I asked him if he knew what the minimum speed limit was.

AT my age that is the safe speed. If you have a problem with it, guess what? Some day you'll be old too.

I'll admit driving fast occasionally, but in the rare times I've hit 90, I really, really noticed it.

Between New Orleans and Biloxi with Hendrix Live at Fillmore East blasting and not notice at all. Hendrix couldn't get me to 119 though.

The posted speed limit was 80. I was getting passed while doing 90. By everyone.

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But where Pirro was there is no herd. Plus herds don't run anywhere near that fast.

u or i did that , wed be locked up ourselves . but wait shes a celebrity .

from the back seat.

Although I'd question said executive's taste.

I told him that in my daily commute I noticed that the unofficial speed limit on the Mass Pike, (I 90), was 75. (The official speed limit was 65.) He told me that his patrol was on I 24, and that he routinely cruised at 80. If you didn't pass him, and you weren't driving "crazy", he left you alone. That has been my experience in the past few years driving from the Greater Boston area to Western MA. I Can't imagine 119 mph.

Especially when a police car on the freeway is cruising at just the speed limit. Every car is used to driving at about 5 or 10 over, but they all have to slow down and keep the same pace. (like the cop is a pace car) And every once in a while some brave soul will creep up beside him and attempt to slowly pass at a fraction over the speed limit. Everyone else waits to see how it turns out, and if he is successful then more cars follow with trepidation. I can't help think some officers are chuckling about it as they watch.

Mine will only do, maybe, 80 mph downhill. Guess I'll never be a conservative badass driver.

on the run, or a drunk teen who's drag racing?

Lots of cars going faster than 119.

The roads are designed for it and German drivers take lane discipline (i.e. Slowest cars on the right, fast on the left) very seriously.

I have done 100 mph in the slow lane of the autobahn with somebody on my bumper. More stress than I care for. An acquaintance once told me how they were doing 100mph in the slow lane, and something flew by him on the left. He couldn't tell what it was except that it was "low and red and fast".

that is not designed like the autobahn.

Just for fun...

I could remove that "function" and find the actual top speed but blah, that is fast enough

Apparently the tyres only last 15 minutes at that speed, but it's okay because the fuel will only last for 10.

In a Koenigsegg CC8S hypercar

http://www.answers.com/Q/What_was_the_fastest_speed_ever_on_a_speeding_ticket