Senator Franken should not resign. He should work harder to represent his constituents. imo

I'm disappointed in Credo for going all in at this point. The offenses we know about are minor and not deserving of losing his seat. I believe this whole thing of equating an unwanted kiss with sexual molestation is a great way to start a new political backlash against us.

2, 6, 20? Where does one draw the line? This second woman coming forward is disappointing, but she need to be heard. If a third comes forward with an account of unwanted touching, we are cutting off an arm if we continue to believe Franken with his vague memory on not touching women. We can't be taking two sides on this, when Roy Moore supporters demanded "more" evidence, we were rightfully angry about them not giving the accusers a fair hearing.

was hopin', however, that he had said he knows that never happened because he never did such things. Does make you wonder.

resignation period.

He has two allegations against him at this point. One comes across more as a really poor attempt at humor than the actions of a serial pervert and we have no idea whether the other accusation has any merit to it or not.

What I'm saying is that maybe, just maybe, we should wait until more information comes out before publicly lynching a great senator.

I do not believe the second allegation.

Al is a very smart guy, even if he was inclined to grab women's butts (and I've never heard any rumors that he is that kind of guy) he's not dumb enough to do it in front of a crowd at the State Fair and risk being decked by the woman or her husband who was taking the picture.

And I certainly don't think Al should resign.

The state fair? With tons of people, cameras, all the local tv stations...that's where he is gonna grab a woman's ass in front of her husband.

And I'm sick of being called a hypocrite because I would apply the same incredulity if you told me it was my Rep Paulson (whom I loathe).

I am a survivor of sexual assault from when I was a child to adulthood (different instances) and it's starting to really piss me off that we are supposed to believe ALL women and criticized for asking questions. Some things have a ring of truth to them, fit a pattern of predatory behavior. Other things make you want more info, ask for context or can be an accident or whatever. And sometimes people ... even women...lie. Not often, not always, but it has happened.

Both genders are capable of lying, of misinterpreting events, of crossing boundaries without malicious intent, of miscommunication and of poor attempts at humor. She may very well have felt gross because she didn't like how the interaction went...maybe his hand was lower than she liked...but I seriously doubt it was a full on ass grab.

And even if it were true, it still doesn't come near as offensive as the behavior of Trump and Moore. It's not a reason to resign...self reflection, apologies and a change in behavior yes, resignation no.

It's pissing me off too. She claims he grabbed her butt in public right before a picture and in front of her husband.... It could have happened, it may not have happened, or his hand might have brushed her butt on accident.

And yes, I seriously doubt the first accuser's account of what happened based on everything that has come out since she first went public, plus the pic doesn't look like he is even touching her flack jacket. The second one claiming he touched her butt.... my lord.... This is what is throwing Senator Franken into the same group as Roy Moore, Weinstein, Trump et al? Just no.

There is huge difference between a 30 year old making a kid touch his penis and an adult man playing grab ass with an adult woman.

WTF had this place turned into? I have been here since 2002. I have never seen it this insane.

for the picture...so I feel it has no credibility at all...she voted for Trump. No way Franken would play grab ass at a fair...such nonsense which is why ...I say no matter what the GOP cooks up, no Dems resign period.

And Hell No.

long distance carrier over ten years ago. They sold me by saying they contribute to doctors without Borders and other liberal causes. Got a letter from them last month and was ask to choose another carrier because they were just using Sprint. Sprint backed out of the arrangement and they ask us to chose a carrier again.

I ditched Credo.

are idiots who apparently have no clue that they are just doing Roger Stone and the Republicans' dirty work for them.

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Their fucking phone service sucks anyway!

It's intellectually lazy and morally indefensible.

Liberal action groups get infiltrated by chaos creators who divide and conquer.
Revolting.

past -like Sierra Club, ACLU.

CREDO has lost their CRED for the time being

Though I think it's clear from the OP that it isn't. Credo is a strange beast however and I never trusted it, or the other beasts like it. (There's a credit card that has the same function, where every transaction pays a penny to a good deed or cause, but the problem is you have no control over the causes and who's to say your fellow Visa creditors share your politics?)