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procon

(15,805 posts)
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 08:53 PM Nov 2017

A panelist on Matthews show just said Hillary needed to move on because

Trump won the electoral college vote AND the popular vote. Susan Page, current Washington Bureau Chief for USA Today, should know better. This fake news will never stop as long as journalists like her are repeating right wing alt facts with a straight face. Worse, none of the other panelists corrected her.

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A panelist on Matthews show just said Hillary needed to move on because (Original Post) procon Nov 2017 OP
she actually said Trump won the popular vote? JHan Nov 2017 #1
Sorry wrong thread Deb Nov 2017 #6
Wow!! How uninformed can these idiots be?!?! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #7
I think she's informed, she was in a mood I guess. JHan Nov 2017 #12
Meh. woolldog Nov 2017 #2
Nice. Control-Z Nov 2017 #23
... emulatorloo Nov 2017 #24
Thanks, emulatorloo! Control-Z Nov 2017 #42
Do you want Democrats to be successful? woolldog Nov 2017 #30
to me Hillary Clinton is an inspiration delisen Nov 2017 #33
Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #36
Not true. She got most votes. delisen Nov 2017 #38
Obviously she's going to do what she wants. woolldog Nov 2017 #39
Who are you to say her time in the sun is over? Control-Z Nov 2017 #40
Could be her knowledge and experience? fleabiscuit Nov 2017 #46
All of the above? Control-Z Nov 2017 #48
Right. She should know her place. lunamagica Nov 2017 #52
We're also free to express the opinion that 2+2yellow. LanternWaste Nov 2017 #56
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #49
Perfectly stated! Control-Z Nov 2017 #43
Me too! happy feet Nov 2017 #57
Oh, you want her to stay home and bake cookies? emulatorloo Nov 2017 #25
Yes, both Bill and Hillary. nt woolldog Nov 2017 #28
Dunno, maybe you should read up on the Clinton Health Access Initiative emulatorloo Nov 2017 #35
How do you feel about Biden and Sanders? Control-Z Nov 2017 #41
*crickets* lunamagica Nov 2017 #53
So it's ok to lie in order to push her away? Nice. Sorry, but neither of the Clintons is going away lunamagica Nov 2017 #51
Huh... Mike Nelson Nov 2017 #3
probably a "mistake" JHan Nov 2017 #4
What was Chris's relpy to that lie? BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #5
Good question... I'm guessin' he let it slide. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #9
Matthews corrected her. DonViejo Nov 2017 #8
I Must Have Missed That The River Nov 2017 #11
Understandable; he's not an easy program to deal with... DonViejo Nov 2017 #16
No, he didn't. He didn't mention it at all, just like everyone else. nt procon Nov 2017 #14
Yes, he did. He did a double take and said, "she won... DonViejo Nov 2017 #19
Good for him. emulatorloo Nov 2017 #27
Matthews has no credibility. He voted for George W Bush. Case closed still_one Nov 2017 #10
By the way... Mike Nelson Nov 2017 #13
She called it a "Verbal Misstep." LyndaG Nov 2017 #15
The Internet fights back, and she tweeted this half assed apology. procon Nov 2017 #17
Calm down, she just misspoke Bradshaw3 Nov 2017 #18
Thank you. DonViejo Nov 2017 #21
Sorry, claiming Trump won the popular vote is bullshit emulatorloo Nov 2017 #26
It is if she meant to do that but she didn't. Bradshaw3 Nov 2017 #29
Very piss poor apology. emulatorloo Nov 2017 #31
Which should be their signal that the news is delisen Nov 2017 #34
Someone should have said-- dawg day Nov 2017 #45
+1 lunamagica Nov 2017 #54
Backbone? How would they do that? Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #58
I'm so sick of these journalists ... LenaBaby61 Nov 2017 #20
Watching the corporate news is a delisen Nov 2017 #37
When will popular vote actually count? slink77 Nov 2017 #22
It's about time it counted. Get rid of the archaic Electoral College. lunamagica Nov 2017 #55
You know what the "popular vote" is called everywhere else but here? Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #59
Trump has said he did win the popular vote ... left-of-center2012 Nov 2017 #32
I saw that and yelled, "Not true, you A-hole!" dawg day Nov 2017 #44
I would have done the same thing! Rhiannon12866 Nov 2017 #47
Susan Page revealed her true colors. MoonRiver Nov 2017 #50

JHan

(10,173 posts)
12. I think she's informed, she was in a mood I guess.
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 09:04 PM
Nov 2017

I get the impression she was on a "Goddamit Hillary why don't you shut up" high. And flubbed.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
2. Meh.
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 08:58 PM
Nov 2017

I do wish the Clintons would move on and just enjoy their retirement, maybe take up gardening or tea parties or something harmless.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
30. Do you want Democrats to be successful?
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 09:51 PM
Nov 2017

If so, you should want the Clintons to move out of the public arena. They're a drag on the party.

delisen

(6,044 posts)
33. to me Hillary Clinton is an inspiration
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 10:27 PM
Nov 2017

and the heart beat of the party. It is because of her I know we have are going to win full equality instead of being the "little missus, the helpmeet, the other, the audience, the cheerleader, Adam's rib, the piece of property.........

Women's Rights are Human Rights.



Response to delisen (Reply #33)

delisen

(6,044 posts)
38. Not true. She got most votes.
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 10:57 PM
Nov 2017

Not only that she has been the person responsible for raising funds for many Democrats who have gotten into office.

She has done that for decades.

You must think she is super powerful.

Putin obviously thinks so-she is the American politician he most hates.

She is not going anywhere. I suggest you stop trying to push this women out of the public space.

Neither she nor I need you to tell us what our choices are.

If your preferred candidates are unable to compete with Clinton in the public arena-that should tell you something about your preferred candidates.




 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
39. Obviously she's going to do what she wants.
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 11:01 PM
Nov 2017

But I am as free to express my opinion that she hurts the Democrats as you are to express yours that she doesn't. Her time in the sun is over and she should retire gracefully.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
56. We're also free to express the opinion that 2+2yellow.
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 11:12 AM
Nov 2017

Yet without objective evidence to support that sentiment, it's little more than a biased allegation... much like a bumper sticker that doesn't retire gracefully.

Response to delisen (Reply #38)

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
35. Dunno, maybe you should read up on the Clinton Health Access Initiative
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 10:33 PM
Nov 2017

among other good works they've done and continue to do.


lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
51. So it's ok to lie in order to push her away? Nice. Sorry, but neither of the Clintons is going away
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 10:24 AM
Nov 2017

Are you aware that Bill Clinton was in Puerto Rico recently taking medical supplies and solar equipment donated by the Clinton foundation,just weeks after the foundation donated 76 tons of medication and medical supplies? He is truly helping, not just going to give speeches, like others.

Do you think that the people benefiting from this "wish the Clintons would move on and just enjoy their retirement, maybe take up gardening or tea parties or something harmless."

And I hope Hillary DOES not move on. I hope she becomes even more prominent

"harmless". Unbelievable

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1918808


SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) — Former U.S. President Bill Clinton is visiting Puerto Rico and meeting with those left homeless after Hurricane Maria hit the U.S. territory as a Category 4 storm.

Clinton arrived on Monday with medical supplies and solar energy equipment donated by the Clinton Foundation, which has already shipped 76 tons of medicine and medical equipment since the storm hit on Sept. 20.

Clinton also visited health clinics and the island’s largest shelter with Puerto Rico Gov. Ricardo Rossello. He was scheduled to meet with San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulin Cruz and other officials later Monday.

Maria killed at least 55 people and is estimated to have caused up to $95 billion in damage across Puerto Rico.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
16. Understandable; he's not an easy program to deal with...
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 09:11 PM
Nov 2017

I yell, "shut up, Chris," at least once every program, if not more.

Mike Nelson

(9,959 posts)
13. By the way...
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 09:05 PM
Nov 2017

...the Clintons are never going to "move on" and Susan Page is one of the reasons. I don't believe Hillary is running, presently, but the media will always be covering her... when events in the news have happened recently, the Susan Pages of the media wondered why Hillary Clinton hasn't said anything... they will cover Hillary for the rest of her life.

procon

(15,805 posts)
17. The Internet fights back, and she tweeted this half assed apology.
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 09:14 PM
Nov 2017





Susan Page?Verified account
Apologies. My verbal misstep. (This may be why I’m a print reporter.)

Bradshaw3

(7,522 posts)
18. Calm down, she just misspoke
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 09:15 PM
Nov 2017

Page is a good journalist; she knows who won the popular vote. She also pointed out when they were talking about possible newer Democratic candidates in 2020 that it was hard for them to get noticed because Hillary and refighting 2016 was taking up the oxygen.

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
31. Very piss poor apology.
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 10:09 PM
Nov 2017

Good journalists should care about the facts, and not give glib half-assed apologies for screwing this up.

delisen

(6,044 posts)
34. Which should be their signal that the news is
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 10:31 PM
Nov 2017

happening now - and they are trying hard to ignore it by talking about 2020 pie in the sky by and by for the "masses."

Bought off corporate faux journalists.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
45. Someone should have said--
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 12:08 AM
Nov 2017

If Russia helped Trump win, then there should be some discussion of re-doing the election.
Clinton said there is no precedence for that, but there was no precedence for 2000 either-- and the GOP just pushed through what it wanted to happen.
The Democrats could show some backbone and say that we cannot reward cheating with the presidency, esp when a foreign adversary is involved.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
58. Backbone? How would they do that?
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 12:27 PM
Nov 2017

I am firmly in favor of throwing not just trump but ALL republicans out of ALL political offices everywhere in this country.

For real.

But I know no way to do that peacefully or legally, oh, and by the way, plenty of mainstream democrats have lots of backbone.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
20. I'm so sick of these journalists ...
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 09:18 PM
Nov 2017

IF it's dealing with something that's bad, they all expect Hillary to speak out, as in Harvey Weinstein.

But, when she has something that she wants to say, it's she need to go away and shut the fuck up.

Why is is that when that fat, treasonous pig in the White House insults people, or brings in the RACE card they mostly all say "Oh that's just him. Chuckle." ASSHOLES.

IF a Democrat ever does win the White House again, the press will be exceedingly hard on that Dem. I mean, nail him/her to the wall with the slightest mess up or misspeak. MARK MY WORD. That fucker now wants to send more troupes to Afghanistan, and all of these soldiers are being killed under HIS watch, and most in the so-called Liberal media which doesn't exist are still telling Hillary to shut up and move on, or speak up and out to the Harvey Weinstein situation.

I tell ya, I really pick and choose which news shows I watch, and it's not MANY

delisen

(6,044 posts)
37. Watching the corporate news is a
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 10:36 PM
Nov 2017

substitute for action, and worse a substitute for thinking.

It is a one way street-the watcher is being propagandized.

Few people can sit through daily doses and not get taken in.



slink77

(1 post)
22. When will popular vote actually count?
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 09:21 PM
Nov 2017

Absolutely! I just created an account so I could comment about Chris Matthews sitting there with his usual blank stare while Susan Page LIED right in front of him! Come on, Chris, become a real Journalist and stop allowing these people to spew lies on your show while you sit there grinning at them! When did MSNBC become "owned" by Fox Noise?!!

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
44. I saw that and yelled, "Not true, you A-hole!"
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 12:05 AM
Nov 2017

The cat was quite startled.

And no one there corrected her. I was furious.

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
47. I would have done the same thing!
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 01:47 AM
Nov 2017

I have actually taken to yelling at the TV! And my cat and my dog get startled too...

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