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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA panelist on Matthews show just said Hillary needed to move on because
Trump won the electoral college vote AND the popular vote. Susan Page, current Washington Bureau Chief for USA Today, should know better. This fake news will never stop as long as journalists like her are repeating right wing alt facts with a straight face. Worse, none of the other panelists corrected her.
JHan
(10,173 posts)lol. smh.
Deb
(3,742 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)JHan
(10,173 posts)I get the impression she was on a "Goddamit Hillary why don't you shut up" high. And flubbed.
I do wish the Clintons would move on and just enjoy their retirement, maybe take up gardening or tea parties or something harmless.
I hope she gets louder and louder.
emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)Control-Z
(15,682 posts)woolldog
(8,791 posts)If so, you should want the Clintons to move out of the public arena. They're a drag on the party.
delisen
(6,044 posts)and the heart beat of the party. It is because of her I know we have are going to win full equality instead of being the "little missus, the helpmeet, the other, the audience, the cheerleader, Adam's rib, the piece of property.........
Women's Rights are Human Rights.
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delisen
(6,044 posts)Not only that she has been the person responsible for raising funds for many Democrats who have gotten into office.
She has done that for decades.
You must think she is super powerful.
Putin obviously thinks so-she is the American politician he most hates.
She is not going anywhere. I suggest you stop trying to push this women out of the public space.
Neither she nor I need you to tell us what our choices are.
If your preferred candidates are unable to compete with Clinton in the public arena-that should tell you something about your preferred candidates.
woolldog
(8,791 posts)But I am as free to express my opinion that she hurts the Democrats as you are to express yours that she doesn't. Her time in the sun is over and she should retire gracefully.
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)Is it her age or her gender that bothers you?
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)Or perhaps because she values families and children?
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)And then some.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Yet without objective evidence to support that sentiment, it's little more than a biased allegation... much like a bumper sticker that doesn't retire gracefully.
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Control-Z
(15,682 posts)As far as I know she is still the most admired woman in the world!
happy feet
(869 posts)emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)woolldog
(8,791 posts)emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)among other good works they've done and continue to do.
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Are you aware that Bill Clinton was in Puerto Rico recently taking medical supplies and solar equipment donated by the Clinton foundation,just weeks after the foundation donated 76 tons of medication and medical supplies? He is truly helping, not just going to give speeches, like others.
Do you think that the people benefiting from this "wish the Clintons would move on and just enjoy their retirement, maybe take up gardening or tea parties or something harmless."
And I hope Hillary DOES not move on. I hope she becomes even more prominent
"harmless". Unbelievable
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1918808
SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) Former U.S. President Bill Clinton is visiting Puerto Rico and meeting with those left homeless after Hurricane Maria hit the U.S. territory as a Category 4 storm.
Clinton arrived on Monday with medical supplies and solar energy equipment donated by the Clinton Foundation, which has already shipped 76 tons of medicine and medical equipment since the storm hit on Sept. 20.
Clinton also visited health clinics and the islands largest shelter with Puerto Rico Gov. Ricardo Rossello. He was scheduled to meet with San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulin Cruz and other officials later Monday.
Maria killed at least 55 people and is estimated to have caused up to $95 billion in damage across Puerto Rico.
Mike Nelson
(9,959 posts)...she seems, to me, like someone who would know... maybe she's developing dementia?
JHan
(10,173 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,609 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)DonViejo
(60,536 posts)The River
(2,615 posts)I was waiting for him to interrupt and correct that LIE. I didn't see it.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)I yell, "shut up, Chris," at least once every program, if not more.
procon
(15,805 posts)DonViejo
(60,536 posts)the popular vote."
emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)still_one
(92,219 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,959 posts)...the Clintons are never going to "move on" and Susan Page is one of the reasons. I don't believe Hillary is running, presently, but the media will always be covering her... when events in the news have happened recently, the Susan Pages of the media wondered why Hillary Clinton hasn't said anything... they will cover Hillary for the rest of her life.
LyndaG
(683 posts)procon
(15,805 posts)Link to tweet
Susan Page?Verified account
Apologies. My verbal misstep. (This may be why Im a print reporter.)
Bradshaw3
(7,522 posts)Page is a good journalist; she knows who won the popular vote. She also pointed out when they were talking about possible newer Democratic candidates in 2020 that it was hard for them to get noticed because Hillary and refighting 2016 was taking up the oxygen.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)Bad behavior.
Bradshaw3
(7,522 posts)emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)Good journalists should care about the facts, and not give glib half-assed apologies for screwing this up.
delisen
(6,044 posts)happening now - and they are trying hard to ignore it by talking about 2020 pie in the sky by and by for the "masses."
Bought off corporate faux journalists.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)If Russia helped Trump win, then there should be some discussion of re-doing the election.
Clinton said there is no precedence for that, but there was no precedence for 2000 either-- and the GOP just pushed through what it wanted to happen.
The Democrats could show some backbone and say that we cannot reward cheating with the presidency, esp when a foreign adversary is involved.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)I am firmly in favor of throwing not just trump but ALL republicans out of ALL political offices everywhere in this country.
For real.
But I know no way to do that peacefully or legally, oh, and by the way, plenty of mainstream democrats have lots of backbone.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)IF it's dealing with something that's bad, they all expect Hillary to speak out, as in Harvey Weinstein.
But, when she has something that she wants to say, it's she need to go away and shut the fuck up.
Why is is that when that fat, treasonous pig in the White House insults people, or brings in the RACE card they mostly all say "Oh that's just him. Chuckle." ASSHOLES.
IF a Democrat ever does win the White House again, the press will be exceedingly hard on that Dem. I mean, nail him/her to the wall with the slightest mess up or misspeak. MARK MY WORD. That fucker now wants to send more troupes to Afghanistan, and all of these soldiers are being killed under HIS watch, and most in the so-called Liberal media which doesn't exist are still telling Hillary to shut up and move on, or speak up and out to the Harvey Weinstein situation.
I tell ya, I really pick and choose which news shows I watch, and it's not MANY
delisen
(6,044 posts)substitute for action, and worse a substitute for thinking.
It is a one way street-the watcher is being propagandized.
Few people can sit through daily doses and not get taken in.
slink77
(1 post)Absolutely! I just created an account so I could comment about Chris Matthews sitting there with his usual blank stare while Susan Page LIED right in front of him! Come on, Chris, become a real Journalist and stop allowing these people to spew lies on your show while you sit there grinning at them! When did MSNBC become "owned" by Fox Noise?!!
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)BTW, Welcome to DU, slink77!
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)the
VOTE
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)... if you don't count New York and California.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)The cat was quite startled.
And no one there corrected her. I was furious.
Rhiannon12866
(205,467 posts)I have actually taken to yelling at the TV! And my cat and my dog get startled too...
A belated welcome to DU!
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Now I'll know to switch channels EVERY time she's on.