"Rumors about Rose’s behavior have circulated for years." Where have we heard that before?

This is also the case with the Weinstein, Moore, and Trump allegations, as well as others we're learning more about. With time, we begin to hear their behavior was a poorly kept secret. I think this is an important aspect to consider.

Time will tell, but I have my doubts we'll subsequently learn that Conyers and Franken have long been known to be sexually inappropriate.

That Charlie Rose was a shocker to me anyway. He always struck me as calm, dignified, and intellectual.

I agree with you on Conyers - but against all public opinion here - wouldn't bet a dime that more doesn't come out about Franken. sorry to say. Just my intuition. Course that wasn't right about Rose

He needs to resign.

...Rep. Conyers didn't pay anything at all.

He's denied the claims and isn't admitting guilt by agreeing to the settlement. He ('his office') agreed the claimant should receive severance pay and the claimant agreed to drop the complaint.

Since it was all mechanical, technical, nothing to see here.

Here's what you are defending:

...you should recognize that I'm just trying to represent the facts, without bias.

I understand that you've already made a negative judgement about Conyers, much of your info coming from Buzzfeed and the right-wing hack who brought all of this forward.

Right now, what we have are charges which have been strongly denied by Rep. Conyers, who has invited further investigation of the charges and the settlement. He deserves, at least, the benefit of the 'due process' that he's asked for. The complainant(s) deserves a hearing, in light of the revelation of the settlement,' if there's a desire or need to be heard further.

In the face of the salacious reporting, I think Rep. Conyers' denials should be given as much weight as the accusations, at least at this point.

on all the affidavits, including from the accuser, so please don't hide behind Cernovich. I'll go with the independent information right now over Conyers, who has already stepped in it by issuing a blanket denial that had to be retracted two hours later.

...if anyone is 'hiding behind Cernovich' it's those who are damning the congressman based on a process which didn't resolve the question of culpability.

It is designed to protect entrenched and entitled people and, because it is secretive, does nothing to alert employees what they are getting into when they decided to work for someone who is a serial harasser.

...I wonder if the claimant is agreeable to reopening the complaint?

I see that the congressman is willing to make himself accountable to whatever they decide to go forward with.

the claimant has to go through, in and of itself, is designed to keep the claimant do drop it. If that fails to keep it quiet and under seal. It is set up to protect the culprit from the get-go. Conyers might not have even known about the proceedings. If any 1 of these deadlines are not met, even by 1 minute it is dropped entirely. It is designed to wear down the claimant and protect the politician.

...and an insult on top of any abuse suffered. It should be exploded and replaced.

from being actual severance pay.

And his credibility is weakened by the fact that at first he denied knowing anything about the claims at all.

...taxpayers did.

It's not at all comparable to other settlements which come out of court cases, for instance. There's no resolution of culpability in the settlement, so pointing to it as a cause for resignation makes no sense. That was my point.

Link to tweet

...so we haven't yet seen evidence that he personally engaged in the process.

I'm a little skeptical of the AP tweet.

Conyers and Franken have both stated that they will fully cooperate with an investigation.

Roy Moore is going on a meltdown and accusing everyone and everything of conspiring to commit a witch hunt against him.