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King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 02:37 PM Nov 2017

I think back to this scene from Easy Rider

when people start ripping into protesters who kneel during the national anthem...

George Hanson (Jack Nicholson): They're not scared of you. They're scared of what you represent to 'em.

Billy (Dennis Hopper): Hey, man. All we represent to them, man, is somebody who needs a haircut.

George Hanson: Oh, no. What you represent to them is freedom.

Billy: What the hell is wrong with freedom? That's what it's all about.

George Hanson: Oh, yeah, that's right. That's what's it's all about, all right. But talkin' about it and bein' it, that's two different things. I mean, it's real hard to be free when you are bought and sold in the marketplace. Of course, don't ever tell anybody that they're not free, 'cause then they're gonna get real busy killin' and maimin' to prove to you that they are. Oh, yeah, they're gonna talk to you, and talk to you, and talk to you about individual freedom. But they see a free individual, it's gonna scare 'em.

Billy: Well, it don't make 'em runnin' scared.

George Hanson: No, it makes 'em dangerous.



A few minutes later, Jack Nicholson had his skull smashed in by a "patriotic" redneck wielding an ax handle.


Colin Kaepernick is a free individual who represents freedom (daring to call-out racial injustice), and that scares 'em.
They hate it. They must squelch it.

The ultra-nationalist, the neo-fascist, the demagogue, and the simpleton will twist themselves into knots when they
try to portray NFL players -- and anyone who protests during our national anthem/drinking song -- as unpatriotic.
They conflate the protest with disloyalty to "the flag" and "our troops". Hypocrites and the self-righteous accuse the
protesters of insulting those who fought for their freedom, and that their protest is an expression of ingratitude. Pithy,
bumper-sticker cracks about "freedom not being free" roll off their wagging tongues. All talk, talk, talk.

The truth is, these blind authorities on freedom are terrified by real freedom. Their conception of freedom is the lock-
step conformity of fascism. They love to brag about how Americans have died to provide our freedom, but they
hate it when someone actually uses that supposed freedom to express any challenge to their authority, power
and self-righteousness delusions about life in America.

In other words, "Here is your gift of freedom; now, don't you ever dare to use it."

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I think back to this scene from Easy Rider (Original Post) King_Klonopin Nov 2017 OP
Colin Kaepernick is Chauncey Gardiner. nt LexVegas Nov 2017 #1
As you said, their concept of "freedom" is for themselves. Dawson Leery Nov 2017 #2
Freedom moondust Nov 2017 #3
I used to tell the young ones jodymarie aimee Nov 2017 #4
Wow! Still relevant. IUPACify Nov 2017 #5
Another evocative line SCantiGOP Nov 2017 #6
It was 2 lines prior to this conversation. nt King_Klonopin Nov 2017 #8
That's not the scene I think of in Easy Rider... TwistOneUp Nov 2017 #7

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
2. As you said, their concept of "freedom" is for themselves.
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 02:56 PM
Nov 2017

The Evangelical/Jihadi alike see "freedom" for themselves only.

moondust

(19,991 posts)
3. Freedom
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 03:21 PM
Nov 2017

FOR THEM to do whatever they want to become supremely rich and powerful: keep slaves, pay starvation wages, rig elections, you name it. THAT'S freedom!

You're free to do whatever you can to help them become supremely rich and powerful. If you don't like your freedom then please disappear.

It's pretty simple really.

 

jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
4. I used to tell the young ones
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 04:00 PM
Nov 2017

how are guys were treated like dirt, not so much the girls......one time my boyfriend and I took our dog in to the vet as he was hit by a car and because we were hippies we had to pay BEFORE services....

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
6. Another evocative line
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 05:18 PM
Nov 2017

Late in the movie, Dennis Hopper character reflecting in a low voice, "You know, this used to be a hell of a good country. I can't understand what's gone wrong with it."

TwistOneUp

(1,020 posts)
7. That's not the scene I think of in Easy Rider...
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 05:28 PM
Nov 2017

I think of the two rednecks killing them. They represented diversity. Oh no, can't have that! Boom!

Make no mistake about it, the White Nationalists and Fundies will do whatever it takes to prevent multi-culti, including starting a civil war. Sinclair has banned the term multi-culti from being spoken on their stations. Even though (black) slaves were first brought here in 1651, Donnie And Crew will continue to believe America is a white country. A la the 50k racist demonstrators in Poland recently.

I've never trusted the Fundies and rednecks since Easy Rider. It wasn't just a movie. It was a slice of America I'd rather not experience IRL.

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