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raccoon

(31,111 posts)
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 10:57 AM Nov 2017

Four-cylinder car versus six cylinders and extremely hot weather.

Four-cylinder car versus six cylinders and extremely hot weather.

What say you?

I have had a four-cylinder car for the last umpteen years. Most of the time the AC works OK but in extremely hot weather it takes longer than I would like to cool off. Also in extremely hot weather on a very long trip I still end up all hot and sweaty. I'm hot natured and I live in a hot state.

Some people seem to think it doesn't make any difference but I have a sister who now has a six cylinder car (used to have a four) and she says it makes a big difference. What do you think?

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Four-cylinder car versus six cylinders and extremely hot weather. (Original Post) raccoon Nov 2017 OP
You Sure It's Filled With Enough Refrigerant? ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #1
Get the best mileage you can is what I say Beakybird Nov 2017 #2
Must depend on the car DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2017 #3
If the interior volume is the same size, or close to it, it would The Polack MSgt Nov 2017 #4
That's a very good question, really. MineralMan Nov 2017 #5
My Tacoma runs on a 4 and no problems BeyondGeography Nov 2017 #6
I prefer six cylinders, but it makes no difference as far as AC goes. nt LexVegas Nov 2017 #7
I would tend to agree genxlib Nov 2017 #8
Zero to 60 Measured In Minutes! Good Line, Genxlib! ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #11
Engine won't matter. NutmegYankee Nov 2017 #9
how many hp does it take to open a window dembotoz Nov 2017 #10
Cant tell a difference between our 4 cylinder Camry GulfCoast66 Nov 2017 #12
We have two four-cylinder cars and we have very hot spells in summer months. Eyeball_Kid Nov 2017 #13
I own a 4, 6 and 8. safeinOhio Nov 2017 #14
You should ask your mechanic. Mariana Nov 2017 #15
I have 2015 Ford Fusion with a doc03 Nov 2017 #16
LOL- Just to be save junk your 4 banger and get a inline 5 cylinder snooper2 Nov 2017 #17
Um I don't think it makes a bit of difference Egnever Nov 2017 #18
My 4 takes a little longer to cool down, especially in city driving. Jokerman Nov 2017 #19
Probably depends on the 4-cylinder. The Honda Civic Type R develops 306 HP FarCenter Nov 2017 #20
Have your mechanic DiverDave Nov 2017 #21
Haven't seen a difference shanti Nov 2017 #22

ProfessorGAC

(65,070 posts)
1. You Sure It's Filled With Enough Refrigerant?
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 11:00 AM
Nov 2017

My wife has a supercharged V6 Buick engine and her air conditioner didn't work well at all. I bought the deal at the auto parts store where you can top off your own compressor. Thing went from blowing 65 degree to 45 degree air with about 10 minutes of effort.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
3. Must depend on the car
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 11:00 AM
Nov 2017

I have driven through Florida and Nevada in the summer in four cylinder cars and was fine.

The Polack MSgt

(13,189 posts)
4. If the interior volume is the same size, or close to it, it would
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 11:03 AM
Nov 2017

The larger, more powerful engine can run a larger AC system without affecting acceleration/cruising. So it would work better.

But if the volume being cooled was much larger - say a minivan vs a compact sedan - Then the increase in cooling power may not make up for the larger volume of hot air to be cooled.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
5. That's a very good question, really.
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 11:03 AM
Nov 2017

The issue is really the power needed to run the AC compressor. The larger the compressor, the more power required.

Generally, 4-cylinder engines make less power than 6-cylinder ones. So, auto makers install smaller AC compressors in those cars, to prevent robbing horsepower needed to move the car. Smaller means less cooling power.

In smaller cars, that's probably not much of a problem. In larger cars, though, the difference could lead to the result you're experiencing. If you add very hot weather, as you seem to have, the difference would seem greater to the driver.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
6. My Tacoma runs on a 4 and no problems
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 11:05 AM
Nov 2017

It's a pretty big vehicle and it goes 80 mph up a mountain in 4th gear (out of 5). No heating and cooling issues either. Toyota created that in-line 4 in the early 60s and it remains one of the best performing engines in the world.

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
8. I would tend to agree
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 11:07 AM
Nov 2017

But there are a lot of variables. I have the same issues with hot-natured and hot climate.

I think it depends on how much power the four cylinder dedicates to cooling power. You can get it cool enough if you don't mind a zero-to-sixty time measured in minutes.

I also think the relative size of the car matters a lot. A four cylinder is more able to handle the small interior of an economy car but will not cool a large sedan or mid-SUV

I try to get hybrids so the electric motors can compensate for the underpowered 4-cyl.

I once had a Honda Pilot that was a 6-cyl but would shut off 3 cylinders at cruising speed. I thought that was pretty slick and you could not even tell it was happening. Before anyone environment shames me, I am in the contruction industry so I need a little bit of capacity and off road ability. I currently have a Hybrid RAV4 and love it.

ProfessorGAC

(65,070 posts)
11. Zero to 60 Measured In Minutes! Good Line, Genxlib!
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 11:24 AM
Nov 2017

I've told people that the 4 cylinder engine on my Chrysler convertible will go zero to 60 in under 3 seconds. Provided i drop it out of a plane.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
9. Engine won't matter.
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 11:09 AM
Nov 2017

The compressor is roughly the same size and only draws a few horsepower. The bigger factor is coolant charge, type, and evaporator size.

dembotoz

(16,808 posts)
10. how many hp does it take to open a window
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 11:24 AM
Nov 2017

i live north as you might have figured but i open a window to let the solar oven that a car is spill out so the ac does not have to work quite at hard to make you cool.
obviously i close the window when the ac starts to work

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
12. Cant tell a difference between our 4 cylinder Camry
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 11:31 AM
Nov 2017

And our 8 cylinder Tundra.

And I live in Florida.

I just think modern compressors are not the energy hogs they used to be. I remember in my 70’s vehicles I would feel a real loss of power when the compressor kicked in that I do not feel now.

But I am a plant science guy so what do I know?

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
13. We have two four-cylinder cars and we have very hot spells in summer months.
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 11:36 AM
Nov 2017

We never have a problem with air conditioning. With my Prius, I still get over 50mpg on highway driving with the air conditioner on.

safeinOhio

(32,688 posts)
14. I own a 4, 6 and 8.
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 11:51 AM
Nov 2017

Cooling is about the same, or I just never noticed. Warming is a different story up here in the snow belt of Michigan. 3 miles and I have some warm air coming out with the 4. More like 6 or 7 miles for the 8 to warm up.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
15. You should ask your mechanic.
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 11:52 AM
Nov 2017

If you have no idea how things work under the hood, it's probably a good idea to ask someone who really knows.

However, I would like to point out your sister's glaring logical fallacy. Your sister's car's AC may very well work better than yours does and her old one did, but that doesn't mean it works better because the new car has six cylinders.

doc03

(35,346 posts)
16. I have 2015 Ford Fusion with a
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 12:05 PM
Nov 2017

2L Ecoboost 4cl engine and a 2006 Toyota Tacoma with a 4L V6. Both ac work good. Maybe I am wrong but I tbink the old R12 coolant worked better.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
18. Um I don't think it makes a bit of difference
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 12:25 PM
Nov 2017

The compressor runs on a belt connected to the engine that spins it. Just like the alternator.

It is possible they use different compressors but I would be surprised if they do.

Jokerman

(3,518 posts)
19. My 4 takes a little longer to cool down, especially in city driving.
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 01:14 PM
Nov 2017

It also sets outside in the sun all day and most of my commute is at 30 mph or less.

It eventually cools down, but much quicker at highway speeds.

I echo the advice above about having your coolant and compressor checked.

The AC does sap more performance power from the 4 then it does from my other vehicles.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
20. Probably depends on the 4-cylinder. The Honda Civic Type R develops 306 HP
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 01:54 PM
Nov 2017

Subaru WRX STI is about the same.

Both come with air conditioning.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
22. Haven't seen a difference
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 02:51 PM
Nov 2017

I have a 4-cyl Caravan (would never do that again!), but in the summer (and it gets pretty hot here), the AC works fine. Now, when I have to climb a hill, 4 cyl suck! Never buy a van with 4 cyl!

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