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Me.

(35,454 posts)
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 03:44 PM Nov 2017

Anita Hill Comes Forward

Anita Hill on Biden: He hasn't taken ownership for his role in what happened.

“During an interview with The Washington Post, she was asked about Biden's recent apology, in which he said he was sorry if Hill felt she didn't get a "fair hearing."
"That's sort of an, 'I'm sorry if you were offended,' " Hill said.

She continued: "I still don’t think it takes ownership of his role in what happened. And he also doesn’t understand that it wasn’t just that I felt it was not fair."

"It was that women were looking to the Senate Judiciary Committee and his leadership to really open the way to have these kinds of hearings."…cont….

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/361552-anita-hill-on-biden-he-hasnt-taken-ownership-for-his-role-in-what-happened


“Former senator Alan K. Simpson (R-Wyo.) in a 2014 interview on the “Death, Sex & Money” podcast: I’d had a wife who’d had much more harassment than Anita Hill. And that’s when I lost my marbles. I thought, “What is this? I mean, for God’s sake, what did he do?” Well, nothing. “Did he touch you?” “No.” “What is it?” “He wanted to talk about Long Dong Silver and pubic hair and coke cans.” “Is that it? Is that it?” “Yes, it is. I wanted you to be aware of his behavior.” And so I was a monster. I was just pissed to the core.”

“Republican Sen. Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah) in a 2010 CNN interview: I can tell you Clarence Thomas was telling the truth. I believe that Anita Hill was an excellent witness. I think she actually believed and talked herself into believing what she said. There was a sexual harasser at that time, according to the sources I had, and he was her supervisor, he just wasn’t Clarence Thomas. I think she transposed that to where she believed it because she was outed by the feminist women at that time and she couldn’t change her mind after — she couldn’t change her tune. And that’s what happened.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/it-was-just-awful-the-clarence-thomas-hearings-in-the-words-of-those-who-were-there/2016/04/07/662eda1a-f120-11e5-85a6-2132cf446d0a_story.html?utm_term=.ea677c15f2de

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Anita Hill Comes Forward (Original Post) Me. Nov 2017 OP
Joe could simply say the good ole buy senate environment got the best of him Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #1
Actually Me. Nov 2017 #2
Is it really, shit. That pisses me off because what I remember is his LONG Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #3
Joe Biden is a bullshit artist, plagiarist and corporate stooge. He needs to get off the stage. chimpymustgo Nov 2017 #20
Yes he could have Eliot, and when he was asked about this a few days ago, he still refused to take still_one Nov 2017 #6
Thank you! And she is right. It isn't about what Biden "felt" then or now. pnwmom Nov 2017 #4
I Thought There Were Other Witnesses Me. Nov 2017 #8
Angela Wright was one of them, but there were a couple others. pnwmom Nov 2017 #15
I love, love, love Joe Biden but he did drop the ball at the Hill hearings. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #5
Bill Maher talks about democrats being too nice... pbmus Nov 2017 #10
A sexual abuser J_William_Ryan Nov 2017 #7
Precisely Me. Nov 2017 #9
Barf. n/t pnwmom Nov 2017 #16
Be careful what you post here. DURHAM D Nov 2017 #11
Thank You For The Warning Me. Nov 2017 #12
Please tell me that posting about sexual harrasment at DU pennylane100 Nov 2017 #14
Yes, he was -- far more deferential to Thomas than to Hill. And that was disgusting to watch. n/t pnwmom Nov 2017 #17
It is for Biden. Don't know about Franken. nt DURHAM D Nov 2017 #19
I Think His 20/20 Decision May Be Being Formed At This Time Me. Nov 2017 #21
I had a post hidden also for not approving 100% of all of Biden's actions Skittles Nov 2017 #22
I remember gibraltar72 Nov 2017 #13
There was a video shop owner who was expecting to receive a subpoena to testify pnwmom Nov 2017 #18

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
1. Joe could simply say the good ole buy senate environment got the best of him
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 03:47 PM
Nov 2017

and he would do it differently now.

I would still support him, and even if he doesnt say it I am gonna assume he knows he fucked up and wouldnt again and if he is running against a republican, any republican, anywhere, any time, do I have to say it?

Biden is not exempt from having misogyny be his default position as most men do.

Not EXCUSING him AT ALL. He needs to own this.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
3. Is it really, shit. That pisses me off because what I remember is his LONG
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 03:51 PM
Nov 2017

speeches, he would ask a question and it would take him 5 minutes to do it.

I love him, dont get me wrong. Ya know what else, I bet Al Franken is NOT Playing this game, which is another reason they want him out so bad.

chimpymustgo

(12,774 posts)
20. Joe Biden is a bullshit artist, plagiarist and corporate stooge. He needs to get off the stage.
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 05:17 PM
Nov 2017

I'll never forgive him for what he did to Anita Hill - and how he rolled out the red carpet for evil Clarence Thomas - who will damage this country for decades to come.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
6. Yes he could have Eliot, and when he was asked about this a few days ago, he still refused to take
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 03:55 PM
Nov 2017

responsibility. This was his lame apology:

"“The message I’ve delivered before is I am so sorry if she believes that,” he said. “I am so sorry that she had to go through what she went through. Think of the courage that it took for her to come forward.”

Sorry Joe, that doesn't cut it, and it sure is taking responsibility for it, nor is it an apology

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/a-woman-just-asked-joe-biden-if-he-wouldve-handled-anita-hill-differently_us_5a09f7b1e4b0bc648a0d18f6?section=us_women

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
4. Thank you! And she is right. It isn't about what Biden "felt" then or now.
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 03:53 PM
Nov 2017

He was in charge of that hearing and he didn't run it well. He made her give her written testimony in advance, and then he set up the hearing to allow Clarence Thomas to rebut her and smear her before she had a chance to open her mouth. And he let the R's ride roughshod all over Anita, including not calling multiple witnesses who were waiting to testify on her behalf and calling that Dogget guy who accused her of having "erotomania."

Those hearings were a disgrace, and Biden's apology, as the HEAD of the Committee, was weak and self-serving.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
8. I Thought There Were Other Witnesses
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 03:58 PM
Nov 2017

Who weren't allowed to testify but couldn't source it......

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
5. I love, love, love Joe Biden but he did drop the ball at the Hill hearings.
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 03:54 PM
Nov 2017

I think the thing was, he has such a congenial personality and I don't think he wanted to step on anyone's toes, including Clarence Thomas, but in that case he really should have.

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
10. Bill Maher talks about democrats being too nice...
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 04:07 PM
Nov 2017

Joe is just another example of that being too nice...

J_William_Ryan

(1,755 posts)
7. A sexual abuser
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 03:55 PM
Nov 2017

on the Supreme Court, a sexual abuser in the WH, many sexual abusers in Congress.

The sexual abuse of women knows no separation of powers.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
9. Precisely
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 04:00 PM
Nov 2017

But she imagined it, or AH was all erotically confused because Clarence T. was such an attractive guy.

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
11. Be careful what you post here.
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 04:11 PM
Nov 2017

I had a post Hidden just for correcting the record on the hearings.

DU is still not ready to have an honest discussion about this matter as it will be Alerted on for posting negative things about a Democrat.

pennylane100

(3,425 posts)
14. Please tell me that posting about sexual harrasment at DU
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 04:42 PM
Nov 2017

is off limits to democrat politicians. I watched those trials and I was really amazed at Biden's behavior. He was definitely much more deferential to the sexual predator Thomas than to an amazing very credible Anita. It took me years to even like him again.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
22. I had a post hidden also for not approving 100% of all of Biden's actions
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 10:06 PM
Nov 2017

I challenged it and won.

gibraltar72

(7,506 posts)
13. I remember
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 04:20 PM
Nov 2017

Hatch and Simpson. I knew they were apologist assholes then and now. If they gave a shit they would have checked porn video rental places and found Thomas a big user. Holding that prick responsible would have put a stop to much of what we are facing today.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
18. There was a video shop owner who was expecting to receive a subpoena to testify
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 05:13 PM
Nov 2017

and he was willing, when subpoenaed (his attorney advised him to wait for that), but they never did it.

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